How is it "ablist" when the people being referred to aren't actually disabled?
Do lots of young people not work these days ?
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How is it "ablist" when the people being referred to aren't actually disabled?
Soldato
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Well one manager told someone with a disability "well if you're disabled why are you working"
She wasn't fired.
And you know that, how exactly?
This is ******** for large parts of the UK. A naff studio flat here is £200k, the average wage is 36k. Average property is £426k or about 12x the average wage.
Please list your medical qualifications that allow you to make such diagnoses...
Because it's my post and that's who I'm referring to.
Likewise there are plenty of people taking advantage of regular UC too - you've admitted to it yourself in this very thread, you don't want to take jobs you think might be beneath you so instead you're on benefits.
You still haven't answered whether you've tried to get a PIP claim in too?
Please cite where I made a diagnosis?
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The country is more work shy than ever. None of the young people who work with me want any additional responsibilities and the kids are more bone idol and supported by their parents than ever.
Your entire post, parroting the current anti-disabled, "people are getting free luxury cars for just having tennis elbow" rhetoric.
Unless you've ever actually been through the absolute nightmare that is claiming PIP, I'd recommend keeping your ignorance to yourself.
I agree.
When I tech'd for a Honda dealer part of my job was to do Motability car scheme reports on the cars when they came in for service, and in 35 years in the motor trade I've never ever seen cars that have suffered so much abuse.
It was just ridiculous.
What an utterly stupid thing to post.
Doesn't sound surprising tbh. Watched a Police Interceptors episode the other day of a young lad in a newish Focus ST being chased by police at dangerously high speeds. When he was eventually stopped, he claimed that it was a Motability car so it would cover him on insurance (which didn't mean anything in his case because he had a provisional licence).
No it's very pro-disabled actually - it's anti the work-shy grifters who are abusing the system.... literally the topic of this thread.
Here's a recent example - it's so common on both the parking accounts and the general crime ones - whether it's someone parked up huffing gas or this character ramming into objects and vehicles at a petrol station - there's always a very questionably "disabled" person behind the wheel of a motability car:
picture as there's swearing in the video
Have to copy and paste the link to view as the forum software sucks and doesn't allow for links to media:
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https://x.com/CrimeLdn/status/1976183165661167840
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No one really wants to work, we work because we have to until we the stage where we decide what our role is… but many of us never get to that stage fully. Those who do, milk it… can become a pain and over stay their usefulness.
I think most people’s first jobs sucks, I had to catch two buses and the walk another 30 mins to get to it… then have to put up with a boss that was a total ****. Karma got to him in the end…. But from that job, it had a structure career ladder, I had a few colleagues that taught me how to work.. in which I did reach out to one of them a few years back to thank.
Once you get used to “work”, learn how to navigate the office politics and even play it.. it’s a slog to climb that career ladder, achieving recognition/qualifications and a proven history the better jobs do come.
I’m currently in a role that I was head hunted for over a period of 6 years… and been here for 4 years now.. do I like my job… hell no… but it more than pays the bills and I try and make the most of my free time.
Another company recently reached out to me asking if I wanted to apply for a role at their company… I turned it down as the package wasn’t competitive enough. So they changed the salary and had an interview.
They wanted me to progress to the next stage, but I withdrew my application… there was far too much “work” to be done to get their operations into a state where it would be workable for me. Yes I could go in and try to change it, but the hiring managers didn’t even recognise what needed to be changed.. anyone who takes that position without major adjustments either needs their head looking at or dare I say; don’t have the experience to fulfil the role correctly.
For any youngster starting a career… yes it’s painful… get yourself a job where there is a career path.. find a good mentor or two in the work place and knuckle down. The rewards will outweigh the effort at some point, and the rewards will be more than just the pay cheque.
I think most people’s first jobs sucks, I had to catch two buses and the walk another 30 mins to get to it… then have to put up with a boss that was a total ****. Karma got to him in the end…. But from that job, it had a structure career ladder, I had a few colleagues that taught me how to work.. in which I did reach out to one of them a few years back to thank.
Once you get used to “work”, learn how to navigate the office politics and even play it.. it’s a slog to climb that career ladder, achieving recognition/qualifications and a proven history the better jobs do come.
I’m currently in a role that I was head hunted for over a period of 6 years… and been here for 4 years now.. do I like my job… hell no… but it more than pays the bills and I try and make the most of my free time.
Another company recently reached out to me asking if I wanted to apply for a role at their company… I turned it down as the package wasn’t competitive enough. So they changed the salary and had an interview.
They wanted me to progress to the next stage, but I withdrew my application… there was far too much “work” to be done to get their operations into a state where it would be workable for me. Yes I could go in and try to change it, but the hiring managers didn’t even recognise what needed to be changed.. anyone who takes that position without major adjustments either needs their head looking at or dare I say; don’t have the experience to fulfil the role correctly.
For any youngster starting a career… yes it’s painful… get yourself a job where there is a career path.. find a good mentor or two in the work place and knuckle down. The rewards will outweigh the effort at some point, and the rewards will be more than just the pay cheque.
First stage is to get your foot in the door which many struggle with in the current climate.
But that example is like the lowest end of IT... what knowledge and experience are you hoping to be renumerated for? It's basically electronic Lego at this pointIf they're not willing to pay for your knowledge or experience...then not worth working for them- they're taking advantage of you. You know whose getting the most of your hard work...lol
No thanks, shelf stackers and cleaners get better pay than that(nothing wrong with those two I've done them both)
I'd want £20 an hour for that job.
Weekend OT as well?
TBH - it's reads like an advert for PC World...
If you want an IT role that pays - get certification on things Businesses need and want - someone who bUiLdS pCs aT hOmE is only ever going to be a bottom feeder on a low salary. No point in anyone getting salty over that, as a 16 year old fresh from school could do the work - and wouldn't mind that pay.
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That is getting harder and harder these days, lots of industries no longer value experienced staff sadly and just see them as a salary liability when it comes to the inevitable reshuffle that someone will kick off in the name of efficiency to justify their job, etc. (that instead will end up costing the business 10x more than it saves). Job roles are often much more tightly defined and likewise career path.
Yep, no company is willing to train anyone anymore.
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It's just online modules as well. I guess a method to deny responsibility to your trainer, then saying "well you didn't follow the module e training, you're at fault"
But that example is like the lowest end of IT... what knowledge and experience are you hoping to be renumerated for? It's basically electronic Lego at this point
TBH - it's reads like an advert for PC World...
If you want an IT role that pays - get certification on things Businesses need and want - someone who bUiLdS pCs aT hOmE is only ever going to be a bottom feeder on a low salary. No point in anyone getting salty over that, as a 16 year old fresh from school could do the work - and wouldn't mind that pay.
!00% this...
Some people value their skills and experince too highly..
I used to work with this guy who's main come back line was that he had "15 years of experince in IT"...
Obvs I didn't want to upset him so I didn't say it to his face, but in the two years that I worked with him; he did the same thing everyday... moved pcs, reprovisioned pcs using the sccm server and template that I've built, and the odd software fix.
Zero experince in project or portfolio work or management, zero experince in service roll out or management, nor any experince in documention or mentoring/training.
When he left the company, he got another job doing the same thing.... and I beileve he's still doing the same thing now 9 years later.
so his experince sums up to what someone with a year of IT experince.
some people get the qualification then expect the company to give them a different role that uses that qualification. but if it adds no value to the business requirements then it's just another feather in a cap that they may never need to wear.
We have a contractor in at the moment, who's rates themselves as a expert coder... debugging his code with him, is worst that debugging a student's code who is sitting a degree in IT (something that I had to do in the past)... my degree is in computer science and software engineer and I do scripting/coding for automation as part of my role, but I would not rate myself even as an intermediate coder.
Most people in IT don't understand that the softskills and procedure certifications like leadership, ITIL Prince and the security theory certs are valued higher than the MCPs and other vendor techincal certs. Once you get to the higher tiers of techincal vendor certs, employers will take for granted that you have a good knowledge and experince in most related technology or can quickly obtain it if needed.