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Hi first time pc builder in need of help and guidance for my first nervous pc build, these are my current thoughts on my first build :

9600x,9700x or one of the x3d cpus all the way up to 9950x3d
b850 or 870 motherboard
850w psu
gpu - 9070/9070 xt or 5070 ti
32gb ram
1tb/2tb m.2 drive
cpu cooler - thermalright air cooler, not sure which one.
air cooling only.
24"-28" 1440p monitor (not oled)

Pc uses : Mainly be used for multitasking and browsing in windows but want to be able to play latest and older games at a high quality standard at 1440p, games like cyberpunk,doom and alan wake 2 and games yet to come out.

My main problem is deciding which cpu to get and at what point at 1440p the gpu takes over from the cpu, if for example i get a 9070 xt or a 5070 ti how much difference in fps or obvious real life playing quality between the 9600x or the 9700x and the x3d cpu's like at the top end 9950x3d, i dont really have a budget but will need the pc to last at least 5-8 years at a good gaming/productivity level but would like value for money but if the 9950x3d will give me top performance longer and will not need to be replaced for a number of years then i will be be prepared to pay for it, also need a good 1440p monitor not oled budget £150-£350 24"-28", would like 2 m.2 drives one for boot(1tb dram) and one for games/storage(2tb dram or dramless), also might want a cheap 1tb m.2 for other storage(can be cheap but needs to be reliable).got a Corsair 7000D case already but has no fans so will need fans, 3x 140mm for front,1 or 2 140mm top,1 back 140mm would prefer the 140mm ones but dont want to spend a lot so advice needed.i do a lot of research for my job so run various programs in windows at the same time like a number of browsers and photo editing software and have just started using vmware virtual machines so need the resources for that too while possibly running a game as well, i know it was a bit long winded but i hope someone is kind enough to help me through this.thanks.
 
What is your exact budget?

When you say multi-tasking, what do you mean? Basic office/browsing use or do you have some sort of core heavy workload such as encoding or running VM's?
 
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how much difference in fps or obvious real life playing quality between the 9600x or the 9700x and the x3d cpu's like at the top end 9950x3d
The 9950X3D is relatively easy to answer because: not much. It only really uses 8 of the cores on the CCD with the 3D cache when gaming, so in benchmarks they're very close to the 9800X3D.

The 9600X/9700X and the 9800X3D, that's harder to answer, because it really depends on the game and your settings. Every game is different. That said, if you want the PC to last for 5-8 years then I'd just buy the 9800X3D, unless you're happy to buy an entry-level CPU and upgrade it later.
 
If your wanting x3 nvme drives you might be better off getting the x870 board

Will any of your work use Cuda? and how much is this going to be a gaming machine that dos a bit of work compared to work machien that does a bit of gaming?

you might be better off gettting a 9700x or even a 9900x depending on work case and then upgrading to the best x3d cpu at a later date again.

Will 32gb be enough for the programs you are using?
 
would like 2 m.2 drives one for boot(1tb dram) and one for games/storage(2tb dram or dramless)
Gigabyte's 7300 is a good price at the moment, so I'd pick that for the primary drive.

got a Corsair 7000D case already but has no fans so will need fans, 3x 140mm for front,1 or 2 140mm top,1 back 140mm would prefer the 140mm ones but dont want to spend a lot so advice needed
I don't know much about fans, so just included a few for completeness. There's a cheap 5-fan pack by Arctic, but I noticed they use 3-pin instead of PWM. Does your case have a fan controller?

The other parts are suggestions, with an emphasis on lower price options.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,578.78 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

24"-28" 1440p monitor (not oled)
Can't help with that one.
 
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also need a good 1440p monitor not oled budget £150-£350 24"-28"

27" is generally the sweet spot for 1440p. Usually, most can be had for around £300~ ish, but there's an insane deal on a monitor that I bought for myself last year for £179 currently:


I've actually got 2 of these monitors at the moment, have had them since last September. I've been using them for gaming, productivity (mostly for my web development job), watching video and just general day-to-day things. They've been golden, colours are spot on and I haven't had any issues.

The current deal of £179 is very good, and it comfortably fits within your monitor budget that you mentioned. This monitor has normally been around that £300 mark.
 
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that sapphire motherboard has my attention
well the pure [white] version to match my build is preferable in my case although i cant really see the motherboard theres a massive noctua aircooler and 2 gpus in the way lol
but yeah id be very interested to hear from anyone who does try out that sapphire nitro board or any of the sapphire boards as they on paper at least well its my front running choice
for my next upgrade thats for sure
 
that sapphire motherboard has my attention
well the pure [white] version to match my build is preferable in my case although i cant really see the motherboard theres a massive noctua aircooler and 2 gpus in the way lol
but yeah id be very interested to hear from anyone who does try out that sapphire nitro board or any of the sapphire boards as they on paper at least well its my front running choice
for my next upgrade thats for sure

If you're after a well priced white motherboard it's hard to beat this tbh:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £153.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)

There's an M-ATX version too.​
 
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If you're after a well priced white motherboard it's hard to beat this tbh:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £153.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)​
There's an M-ATX version too.​
unfortunately only 2 m.2 slots and i cant use 2 gpus tbh i might have to go x870 but htat sapphire nitro on paper would allow me to do this although i think one of my 4th gen m.2s will be at x2 speed unfortunately but thats not so bad
also want pcie5 on gpu slot and the 1st m.2 lol that does look a nice board though
the main reason i want the sapphire pure if im honest is because both my gpus are sapphire pure so in theory they should match aesthetically pretty well but tbf so would any decent white board lol
its the 1x5th gen and 2x 4th gen m.2 and a second x16 slot at 4x and at least gen 4 with the main slot at gen 5 thats the big issue lol
but anyway
that does look like a nice board though that msi
 
unfortunately only 2 m.2 slots and i cant use 2 gpus tbh i might have to go x870 but htat sapphire nitro on paper would allow me to do this although i think one of my 4th gen m.2s will be at x2 speed unfortunately but thats not so bad
also want pcie5 on gpu slot and the 1st m.2 lol that does look a nice board though
the main reason i want the sapphire pure if im honest is because both my gpus are sapphire pure so in theory they should match aesthetically pretty well but tbf so would any decent white board lol
its the 1x5th gen and 2x 4th gen m.2 and a second x16 slot at 4x and at least gen 4 with the main slot at gen 5 thats the big issue lol
but anyway
that does look like a nice board though that msi

Fair enough mate.

It's very much a case of buying for features like extra m.2's or USB slots at this point with most motherboards.

The Sapphire board is a good bit of kit judging from reviews, they've been my go-to over the years for AMD GPU purchases too.

GEN 3-4 vs 5 on the GPU slot is such a minor performance decrease even with a 5090 mind you, in fact it's often necessary to switch due to the cards not playing well with Gen5 for whatever reasons.

You've clearly got some pretty unusual use-cases given the two GPU thing.
 
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yeah the second gpu has gen 4 x4 so cant even do it with a pcie 8 it ownt have enough performance it just manages it at gen 4 x4 lol
but yeah i think lossless scaling dual gpu mode is becoming more popular but its a bit of a niche use case still
im away off upgrading anyway but i still take interest in others builds on here as it is always educational and interesting
 
yeah the second gpu has gen 4 x4 so cant even do it with a pcie 8 it ownt have enough performance it just manages it at gen 4 x4 lol
but yeah i think lossless scaling dual gpu mode is becoming more popular but its a bit of a niche use case still
im away off upgrading anyway but i still take interest in others builds on here as it is always educational and interesting

Good way to figure things out, I've just learned something by chatting with you and I'm sure others might have also. It makes it a better community for all of us in the end, I'm going to look into what you've explained more simply for the fact you brought it up. :D

There's a lot of experience in this forum, and certainly I would say in this particular section, but nobody is perfect and we can all learn new things and I suspect most of the regulars here do that day to day.

I believe this application aids in that: https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Not sure how well it works so any input is very appreciated.
 
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Been looking at this monitor over the past few weeks seem good but not many reviews , redit seems positive so mite be worth a punt.

Most of the specs are correct but leave it to the op if interested to check thoroughly.



Absolutely worth a punt, wasn't calling you out btw bud, just watching a movie with the other half atm so felt it was worth mentioning. OCUK has been a mess lately with specs on various peripherals, hopefully that's starting to change!

Excellent monitor at the price point imo so totally agreed there.

I've taken a punt on OLED's that didn't have many reviews myself lately and scored hard with my Philips, would happily do the same with Asrock.
 
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Absolutely worth a punt, wasn't calling you out btw bud, just watching a movie with the other half atm so felt it was worth mentioning. OCUK has been a mess lately with specs on various peripherals, hopefully that's starting to change!

Excellent monitor at the price point imo so totally agreed there.

I've taken a punt on OLED's that didn't have many reviews myself lately and scored hard with my Philips, would happily do the same with Asrock.
All good.

I always tell people to check and read reviews,we advise/ point them in a direction but it best to clarify.

The Philips oleds do look interesting and seem to be at a good price point , the 49" ultrawides are insane.
 
All good.

I always tell people to check and read reviews,we advise/ point them in a direction but it best to clarify.

The Philips oleds do look interesting and seem to be at a good price point , the 49" ultrawides are insane.

A lad bought one for his Elite Dangerous setup lately on here and loves it, damned impressive for the price point tbh.
 
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