Plane Spotters / Flight Radar Thread

andy_mk3 said:
I'm by no means an aviation expert, but I would imagine you ought to be pretty committed to land by that point. Reversers engaging is usually the point of no return on a go-around.

Both pilots will definitely having a meeting before their next flight, either way.
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I thought the same but you can see them opening on the video.
 
Watching the elevators would seem to suggest that the unstable touchdown led to the nose beginning to drop quite rapidly, and the pilot tried to arrest that but went a bit too far. At some point one of them just called the go-around a may not have realised the reversers had started deploying - rather than start a disagreement on the runway they’ve just cleaned up and gone around.
 
Penfold101 said:
Watching the elevators would seem to suggest that the unstable touchdown led to the nose beginning to drop quite rapidly, and the pilot tried to arrest that but went a bit too far. At some point one of them just called the go-around a may not have realised the reversers had started deploying - rather than start a disagreement on the runway they’ve just cleaned up and gone around.
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I would say that is a likely series of events. Probably took them a bit by surprise with the conditions being so calm and a stable approach until the last moment.
 

Helicopter crash in California yesterday. Looks like tail rotor failure and ultimate detachment. 2 on board survived and 3 on the ground were also injured.
 
FBi7 said:

Helicopter crash in California yesterday. Looks like tail rotor failure and ultimate detachment. 2 on board survived and 3 on the ground were also injured.
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I see that yesterday and couldn't believe how lucky they were to crash where they did, both for the crew and those on the ground.
 
That is why I am in no hurry to ride in a helicopter. Absolutely crazy that accident wasn't worse - if I'd just seen a short clip of it I'd assume AI generated in the first instance.
 
AF1 along with other C-32A's have landed at Mildenhall, presume to refuel, kinda surprised it can't make Egypt to Washington DC, maybe they didn't trust the fuel in Egypt.....
 
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Firestar_3x said:
AF1 along with other C-32A's have landed at Mildenhall, presume to refuel, kinda surprised it can't make Egypt to Washington DC, maybe they didn't trust the fuel in Egypt.....
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Also a Boeing 747-E4B (as well as other stuff) on the move which I'm assume is related - saw it flying in when the rest was before. They did the inbound trip without stopping IIRC.
 
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Firestar_3x said:
AF1 along with other C-32A's have landed at Mildenhall, presume to refuel, kinda surprised it can't make Egypt to Washington DC, maybe they didn't trust the fuel in Egypt.....
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Having just checked the figures with Google, Washington to Cairo is JUST within the range of the C-32 (757 with extended range tanks) but with legal safety factors and headwinds it’s probably not an ideal non-stop, and you don’t want to be diverting something like this. Much easier to plan a fuel stop at a known secure location.

The 747 could easily make it - the 75 was designed as an internal airliner for the US.
 
Bunch of Stratotankers done a curious lap of Ireland - not sure if supporting inbound or outbound traffic, but a bit of a weird one.
 
Bit of a tangent and despite being relatively primitive - but didn't realise these had come along as far as they have:


One of the coolest things in aviation at the moment, even if a mere glimmer of future potential (even if it is in many ways a more dangerous mini helicopter).
 
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Penfold101 said:
I’ll defer to @esmozz as an actual pilot, but potentially being back in the sky after a situation like that is the best place to be as it gives you time and space to sort things out - there’s only so much runway available and many things that could be wrong.

Not that this helped Pakistan 8303.

en.wikipedia.org

Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303 - Wikipedia

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Generally speaking, yes - it's a good idea to get back in the air to give you time to sort out any problems or try again instead of going off the end of the runway. However, in this case I think I see the TR deploying in the video and that's going to be very problematic for the pilots to explain and generally speaking once they're out, you're committed to the landing. But as ever, it's very difficult to draw any firm conclusions from a short video.

Since I'm here I thought I'd post this.

www.theguardian.com

Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minutes of fuel left, flight log suggests

Investigation under way after flight during Storm Amy made three landing attempts in Scotland before flying to Manchester
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

220Kg!!!!!

I would not want to have been on that flight.
 
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esmozz said:
and that's going to be very problematic for the pilots to explain
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I skimmed over where some genuine experienced pilots were analysing it on another forum and there were several things they were saying was going to make for some interesting explaining and that someone on that aircraft was probably looking at a new career.
 
esmozz said:
From a cruising altitude of say 37000 ft, you've got about 100 miles of glide range (very approximately).

Much lower down, say 4000 ft. about 8 miles - which is unlikely to do you any good.
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I dont think it would be much fun with 300 screaming passenger and crew.
 
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