Classic car exemption removal

sovietspybob said:
I think the argument is that they're used far far less than a normal car, most will probably be luck to do more than a thousand miles or so a year.

Plus it's an incentive to keep our heritage alive and working and not scrapped or sat in a shed somewhere no one can see it.
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I get the argument but the other is as I said, they use the road they pay the tax. Users of modern vehicles doing low miles are not exempt.

As for talk of penny pinching etc, yes thats exactly what they are doing, anyone who listens to the news will know the hole they are in.
 
Gibbo said:
A lot of owners with classic cars keep them running mechanically spot on
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Which is precisely the reason they’re MOT exempt.
We’re used by another garage that restores/maintains old campers and it’s almost unheard of for me to fail one of them.
A few look on the outside that they’re about to fall apart, but are mechanically perfect.
 
Rroff said:
Says a lot when they are hunting down the back of the sofa for spare change, that said the only way out of the current situation really is broadly raising taxes and/or new taxes across the board but I'd have to be convinced the money was actually being used constructively and not disappearing into a black hole of vanity projects and varying degrees of corruption with nothing changing. And especially not spent on things like OSA and digital IDs, etc. when there is so much else that is pressingly needing that cash and attention.
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It's interesting you make a comment like that, as I saw Martin Lewis announce a poll yesterday about whether people would accept a 3% council tax increase if it helped fund green initiatives. And the top 20 or so comments I scrolled through basically had the same consensus that people would be happy to pay a bit more for these things, but they just don't trust the council to ring fence that money for spending specifically on those things.

It's a sad state of affairs when across the board the public no longer have faith in their government to spend money responsibly.
 
200sols said:
As for talk of penny pinching etc, yes thats exactly what they are doing, anyone who listens to the news will know the hole they are in.
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And yet there's always money to be spent when they want to, ie another £20 million for a total of £116 million to Gaza in aid this year. I make no judgement on that, but still, the money's there...
 
Uther said:
And yet there's always money to be spent when they want to, ie another £20 million for a total of £116 million to Gaza in aid this year. I make no judgement on that, but still, the money's there...
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Probably coming from the existing aid budget. Whether you agree with international aid is another story.
 
Frankiemac said:
I bet you would raise a lot more than £107m if you tax amazon and ebay properly.
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Or themselves and their off-shore accounts and companies etc.

How ever bad things get we never seem to be at a point where MPs are having to make sacrifices, or see cutbacks which affect them. They still get pay rises yearly, massive pensions, seemingly endless expense pots and second homes paid for...
 
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Nasher said:
Or themselves and their off-shore accounts and companies etc.

How ever bad things get we never seem to be at a point where MPs are having to make sacrifices, or see cutbacks which affect them. They still get pay rises yearly, massive pensions, seemingly endless expense pots and second homes paid for...
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'We're all in this together'
lulz...
 
Bunch of money grabbing ********!! I enjoy going to the vintage car and commercial vehicle rallies up here so I hope this doesn't have too much of a effect. These people have spent hundreds, sometimes thousands of hours and a great deal of money restoring these lovely old vehicles and take the time to take them to rallies for others to enjoy and now it seems like they are going to be penalised.
 
As the old saying goes, the problem with Socialism is that eventually they run out of other people's money. Horrible people.

Anyway... I have a 31 year old car and was looking forward to it eventually not needing tax. The tax is already over twice the price of classic insurance on the car (and I pay tax on the insurance too!). The point of MOT and tax concessions for classic vehicles is to help people keep vehicles of historical interest on the road. I've utterly had enough of this useless money grabbing government always reaching into my pocket so I now try to legally avoid tax wherever possible. I've always sucked it up and got on with it, happy to contribute my fair share. But now I'm looking for avenues to reduce my tax liability. Screw them. I'll vote for almost anyone to get them out of power.
 
200sols said:
Use the road, pay tax. It's hardly unfair when everyone else is paying it.
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And what about other vehicles that are exempt? They also don't pay "road tax" (paging @SexyGreyFox :D ). Cyclists use the road and don't pay "road tax". Pedestrians don't. Horses don't.
 
Lopéz said:
And what about other vehicles that are exempt? They also don't pay "road tax" (paging @SexyGreyFox :D ). Cyclists use the road and don't pay "road tax". Pedestrians don't. Horses don't.
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None of those groups are exempt from VED. They are not considered vehicles within the remit of such tax.

www.gov.uk

Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax

Types of vehicle that are free to tax (exempt), including vehicles used by disabled people, mobility scooters, and historic vehicles
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
Diddums said:
Yes they do, they just don't give it to the people that matter.
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200sols said:
None of those groups are exempt from VED. They are not considered vehicles within the remit of such tax.

www.gov.uk

Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax

Types of vehicle that are free to tax (exempt), including vehicles used by disabled people, mobility scooters, and historic vehicles
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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But your statement was "use the road, pay tax" which is clearly not the case. There are many things, objects, vehicles, contraptions and so on that "use the road" and don't "pay tax"
 
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