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9850X3D and 9950X3D2 rumours.
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Not a chance as these will be even more overpriced. I reckon MSRP's of £479.99 for the 9800x3d2 and £759.99 for the 9950x3d2. A grand for a cpu and a half decent motherboard!! 
Not a chance as these will be even more overpriced. I reckon MSRP's of £479.99 for the 9800x3d2 and £759.99 for the 9950x3d2. A grand for a cpu and a half decent motherboard!!
I think at £760 the x2 part will be a bargain.
Yes - the alternative is Threadripper which is much more expensive.
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Yeah £60 over the normal x3d model doesn't strike me as bad at all (regular price, not current). 30w extra although can obviously bring this down with some tweaking (even if not as low as the x3d will go)
9850x3d seems a bit of a damp squib though, it's only really a clock bump isn't it?
9850x3d seems a bit of a damp squib though, it's only really a clock bump isn't it?
Possibly. That said an 8% boost in frequency across 16 threads isn’t to be sniffed at. That would be a significant uplift across all core workloads and a pretty tempting upgrade for many.
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Especially when you consider that the higher base/boost out the box, will also lift the PBO maximum frequency, and gains possible with BCLK tuning; and if they're binned, they may hit higher frequencies with less power or heat.
To be seen yet whether they work out to actually push much further out the box, but, they'd definately bring the baseline up, which'd make a difference for those doing productivity as well as gaming.
No such thing as a bad chip, only bad pricing...we shall see.
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True, I'm not really one to upgrade very often, but will be a decent boost for those that need every frame they can get.
Having just looked up benches of the existing 9950x3d, I hadn't realised how far things have come from my 5950X, the 9800x3d is nipping at it's heels with half the cores even in heavily threaded workloads. Upgraditus kicking in again
(kinda hard to find reviews that include AM4 chips as well)
True, I'm not really one to upgrade very often, but will be a decent boost for those that need every frame they can get.
Having just looked up benches of the existing 9950x3d, I hadn't realised how far things have come from my 5950X, the 9800x3d is nipping at it's heels with half the cores even in heavily threaded workloads. Upgraditus kicking in again
(kinda hard to find reviews that include AM4 chips as well)
I’m the same when it comes to desktop system. 1800X>3700X>5950X and currently using a 7800X3D. I was pleasantly surprised with the multicore performance of the 7800X3D compared to the 5950X.
In lightly threaded workloads and gaming the 7800X3D is in another realm in terms of performance, especially when considering the power use, but it’s also proved to be plenty capable in multithreaded task to the point I don’t mis those extra 16 threads too often, which as you point out is pretty incredible for a single generation.
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I am still going to wait for the 10800x3d when it launches next year. If that's too expensive I will pick up a 9800x3d2 from one of you lot in the MM when you upgrade.
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any idea when these are likely to drop??
While not having to worry about a task picking the wrong CCD is nice, are there any games which scale well above 8 cores?
For productivity, 2x8 with full speed 3D cache might fit some niches, just a little unsure which ones. Maybe solid 7z archive with a certain dictionary size?
Still the 9950X3D2 rumour at least brings something new (I realise there have been EPYCs with 3D cache for all CCDs before this), whereas a speed bump is a bit boring.
For productivity, 2x8 with full speed 3D cache might fit some niches, just a little unsure which ones. Maybe solid 7z archive with a certain dictionary size?
Still the 9950X3D2 rumour at least brings something new (I realise there have been EPYCs with 3D cache for all CCDs before this), whereas a speed bump is a bit boring.
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i mean it would allow me to be EVEN moresloppy with my system resources in my music making endevours
yeah even Im not that bad with my workflow that id actually need this to work lol
on a serious note though the big one isnt what id be looking for but that updated 9850x3d for those of us who want slightly more than the 8c sku does but without the effort of going to a 12 core on two ccds and the faff that involves etc if you can see what i mean
still a bit of a niche one even there and obviously the 9850x3d would be an obvious part for an obvious job but yeah the dual x3d is going to need a specific use case for it to be that much of a game changer i guess
there will still be a lot of people like me who would get it just because well we like this kinda thing lol
Context switching, serial workloads, VMs where you need a few fast threads, heavy compute. Would make for a great VDI system with a pair of ARC Pro or Flex cards chopped up.
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I mean... I dont need 256GB, but as per my earlier comments, need =/= want
Not many games yet, but could see the use for recording/content creation - Have always preferred the quality of CPU encoding over GPU and you could absolutely crank the settings with the extra cores
tbh I've never struggled much with audio stuff even on 2500k or AMD 1700, as my projects are fairly simple, but depending on how many VSTs you use it might be helpful (or as you said, at least allow you to be more lazy - like process all the instruments realtime rather than pre-rendering tracks to wav).... I'm still gonna try to hold off for the possible 12/24 single CCD AM6, but I might get tempted
Unless they have solved the issue as most games are still going to assign to a single 8 core CCD to help with performance/latency and the second CCD wether it has vcache or not is proberly going be sat idle/a sleep.
I'm not sure what would justify the potential productivity performance increase given the price the 9950X3D2 over something that would be more than suitable but proberly cost half the price.
The 9850X3D is going to be intresting as it may cause all the people who threw aside their 7800X3D's for 5% average more gaming performance at 1080p with a 5090 for a 9800X3D to upgrade again.
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yeah thats exactly what i meant about my completely innefficient workflow i leave everything until the last possible moment before printing it off as awav lol and im just so disorganised ive usually got at least a web browser on one screen as well usually frantically trying to find out how to undo whatever epic fail ive just achieved is and a pdf manual/guide open as well so i can pretend i know what im doing and messenger to let my friends know that im completely distracted from what im meant to be doingI mean... I dont need 256GB, but as per my earlier comments, need =/= want
Not many games yet, but could see the use for recording/content creation - Have always preferred the quality of CPU encoding over GPU and you could absolutely crank the settings with the extra cores
tbh I've never struggled much with audio stuff even on 2500k or AMD 1700, as my projects are fairly simple, but depending on how many VSTs you use it might be helpful (or as you said, at least allow you to be more lazy - like process all the instruments realtime rather than pre-rendering tracks to wav).... I'm still gonna try to hold off for the possible 12/24 single CCD AM6, but I might get tempted
my 5900x seems to be doing fine if im honest but yeah its nearly time for me to go am5 just so i can shut up about it lol