Imgur has blocked the UK

[Nasher]

Well, they could in theory force ISPs to block them, but:

A) that would cause a whole host of massive issues for many companies
and
B) It would be relatively trivial to create a VPN able to bypass the block

With the above taken into consideration, it's almost certainly something our utterly inept leaders will try. ****ing morons.

Some ISPs already try to, but people get around it easily. I think on some parental controls (on by default now :/) also block VPNs.

They can use deep packet inspection, but a lot of VPNs can even hide from that now. ISPs have to spend a LOT of money on detection but VPN providers only have to tweak a few software bits to adapt.

 

[LeeUK]

I wish more sites would just block access to the UK like Imgur. Was hoping Wikipedia would do it too but I think they need the donations too much yo keep operating.

Why do you want Wikipedia to block the UK?

 

[Nasher]

Why do you want Wikipedia to block the UK?

Because it's high profile and would highlight how dumb the whole thing is to the masses.

 

[unwashed potato!]

Why do you want Wikipedia to block the UK?

I imagine they then expect the bill to be slated more and hope it gets it repealed

 

[LeeUK]

Ah I see, good idea.

 

[Hagar]

Why do you want Wikipedia to block the UK?

Will cut down on the begging letters

 

[arknor]

Well, they could in theory force ISPs to block them, but:

A) that would cause a whole host of massive issues for many companies
and
B) It would be relatively trivial to create a VPN able to bypass the block

With the above taken into consideration, it's almost certainly something our utterly inept leaders will try. ****ing morons.

in theory the next gov might just decide blocking these sites is a waste of time when the real damage is apps like tiktok and instagram

did we block roblox? the pedo grooming ground to protect the kids? I'm guessing no

but some random image host or websites that never had issues with adult content or illegal content.... ban them all!


wont somebody think of the children! the children who can just put on a free vpn app.... and still access these sites anyway.....

VPN companies must be lobbying every politician going as well as any big competitors to these sites.

it';s not about the kids it's about marketshare and $ we all know it... it's just another tool for monopolies to use

 

[Malevolence]

Will cut down on the begging letters

Begging letters? I've been using Wikipedia since it first began and not once have I received a begging letter. Why do they have your address for a start?

 

[BUDFORCE]

it';s not about the kids it's about marketshare and $ we all know it... it's just another tool for monopolies to use

This and only this.

Just like basically everything these days.

 

[Bluecube]

but some random image host or websites that never had issues with adult content or illegal content.... ban them all!

Imgur wasn’t banned. Imgur itself decided it didn’t want to pay fines for breaching established regulations, took the huff and walked off with its ball.

 

[arknor]

Imgur wasn’t banned. Imgur itself decided it didn’t want to pay fines for breaching established regulations, took the huff and walked off with its ball.

essentially banned by the UK gov because they expect the site to implement measures that are pointless.

you are aware of roblox being a pedophhile grooming ground utopia right? yet imgur is the problem....

TikTok was causing kids to suicide not imgur


it's a joke and anyone who supports it is an idiot having the wool pulled over their eyes.

censorship for your safety

wonder how many kids are being groomed on facebook right now

Meta documents show 100,000 children sexually harassed daily on its platforms

Employees fretted over company’s ‘negligible’ response to child grooming, according to internal documents made public in lawsuit

www.theguardian.com

I'm guessing a lot.

France: TikTok still steering vulnerable children and young people towards depressive and suicidal content

The report contains sensitive content including references to self-harm and suicide New Amnesty International research has found that TikTok’s ‘For You’ feed is pushing French children and young people engaging with mental health content into a cycle of depression, self-harm and suicide...

www.amnesty.org

Kentucky lawsuit says Roblox fails to protect children on its popular online gaming platform

Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman says the online gaming platform Roblox has become a “playground for predators.”

apnews.com

essentially protecting the children by banning memes, whilst ignoring the true dangers and handing more power to aid their monopoly

 

[Bluecube]

<snip>

Imgur made the decision itself not to allow UK users to access its services. Why ****tok, Meta et al get away with their own safeguard breaches is another matter altogether and certainly a matter that our esteemed guardians of moral fibre should be looking into. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

 

[visibleman]

essentially banned by the UK gov because they expect the site to implement measures that are pointless.

It's been pointed out to you a numerous times, including myself, Medialab decided to geo-block the UK from Imgur due to issues around GDPR - the rumour is that Imgur didn't check for age verification upon user signups.
And as i'm sure you're well aware, GDPR predates this government.

Some ISPs already try to, but people get around it easily. I think on some parental controls (on by default now :/) also block VPNs.

They can use deep packet inspection, but a lot of VPNs can even hide from that now. ISPs have to spend a LOT of money on detection but VPN providers only have to tweak a few software bits to adapt.

Outside of parental controls, which tend to be opt-in/out and are easily disabled, are you suggesting there are UK ISPs actively blocking VPN protocols (across their entire networks)? If so, have got a list of these ISPs?

 

[Hagar]

Yes you can all think of the inconsequential stuff and make fun of it but i am 100% behind this. We cannot let everything become the wild west and upsetting a few people to begin establishing some ground rules is no big deal particularly as you are sure there are workarounds in place.
OCUK are in the right place enabling continuity for its members and helping with the future. Unfortunately there are bad ******** who do misuse the nice stuff for everybody.

 

[Rainmaker]

Yes you can all think of the inconsequential stuff and make fun of it but i am 100% behind this. We cannot let everything become the wild west and upsetting a few people to begin establishing some ground rules is no big deal particularly as you are sure there are workarounds in place.

The Internet has been the 'Wild West' long before commercialism and nannyish overlordship took over and enshittified everything, and everyone seemed to get through it just fine. I could just as easily say 'We cannot let everything succumb to fascist/dictatorial censorship of free speech and freedom of expression, wrapped up as NIMBYist hand-wringing and 'think of the children' based on one person's/government's/country's moralistic standpoint. Upsetting a few soft ultra-left wokies for the sake of being able to speak your mind and do what any adult ought to be able to, without fear of persecution, is no big deal'.

Crimes already exist and there is legislation to enforce it. Paedophilia, incitement, terrorism, harassment et al. are all legislated against perfectly well. The introduction of 'Papers, please!' to view forums and social media sites is nothing more than a prelude to further control, surveillance and censorship. We have police visiting and even arresting people for criticising the government, using sweary language and stating calm and rational viewpoints contrary to the political ideology of the ruling party. The fact that doesn't alarm people is baffling, tbh.

 

[ChrisD.]

Yes you can all think of the inconsequential stuff and make fun of it but i am 100% behind this. We cannot let everything become the wild west and upsetting a few people to begin establishing some ground rules is no big deal particularly as you are sure there are workarounds in place.
OCUK are in the right place enabling continuity for its members and helping with the future. Unfortunately there are bad ******** who do misuse the nice stuff for everybody.

It's not working though and has been implemented poorly, I can google something naughty, press on images and voila, some proper filth.

 

[Hagar]

Crimes or criminal sanctions exist but few cross border legislation sticks, the UK and the EU are putting their heads above the parapet but yes it is early days and it is still much the wild west with terrorism and other crimes allowed free rein pretty much.
I am a strong proponent of free speech and basically freedom to say what you like however scammers are filth and for anyone operating criminally on the street or on the internet, the same laws and penalties should apply.
And unfortunately again the internet is not the sole domain of adults, progressive generations have demanded that their 3-5 year olds should browse uninhibited by parental controls leading to the phone generations not able to communicate or walk along the street not viewing a screen

As to its implementation, legislators are feeling their way and some measures will be dropped, some amended and some added. It is early days and just to do nothing is not an option.

 

[Rainmaker]

Crimes or criminal sanctions exist but few cross border legislation sticks, the UK and the EU are putting their heads above the parapet but yes it is early days and it is still much the wild west with terrorism and other crimes allowed free rein pretty much.
I am a strong proponent of free speech and basically freedom to say what you like however scammers are filth and for anyone operating criminally on the street or on the internet, the same laws and penalties should apply.
And unfortunately again the internet is not the sole domain of adults, progressive generations have demanded that their 3-5 year olds should browse uninhibited by parental controls leading to the phone generations not able to communicate or walk along the street not viewing a screen

As to its implementation, legislators are feeling their way and some measures will be dropped, some amended and some added. It is early days and just to do nothing is not an option.

Asking every citizen for a face scan and ID to access social media, forums and image hosts etc has nothing to do with terrorism or scammers. Any under 18s on the Internet is a parenting issue, not a legislative issue. Nobody asks for a face scan on the TV after 9pm (yet!) when racier and more violent shows start. This type of conflation is exactly how the feckless fascists have gotten away with such dictatorial and fascist (in the true sense) legislation to start with.

 

[Hagar]

Asking every citizen for a face scan and ID to access social media, forums and image hosts etc has nothing to do with terrorism or scammers. Any under 18s on the Internet is a parenting issue, not a legislative issue. Nobody asks for a face scan on the TV after 9pm (yet!) when racier and more violent shows start. This type of conflation is exactly how the feckless fascists have gotten away with such dictatorial and fascist (in the true sense) legislation to start with.

I must admit I was somewhat surprised that Herr Starmer brought up digital ID and tied it to getting a job, (much more difficult to do under Labour), then saying it would be put on a handset. I for one won't as I am a 2g user and anyway past the age of jobhunting. As to whether face scans will be necessary that is still undecided at this time.

However no government can tie the hands of a successor, so much like Blairs effort if it arrives in 2029, the next government can just ignore it and not do it.

At this time I see little ill effects from the current legislation on the statute books and some good.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

In fairness making it a requirement to prove your identity and only being able to post under your real name would likely make social media a much more pleasant space than it is currently.

Instead we prefer the make it a cess pit under the illusion of ‘free speech’ which doesn’t and has never really existed.

P.S. there is nothing racy or even particularly violent about TV programs from 9pm. You can only use mild profanity once or twice through the course of an entire programme podcast at 9pm. It’s not until you get past 10-11pm where you can really exceed that.

You might get the odd nipple flash simulated sexual activity but that’s about it.