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Are you sure? I'll have to check that!
After a brief search google's AI says that the pano-sunroof it is indeed double laminated on the Seal and I can confirm that by looking at the etching present.
Change of plan then - the rear door windows are the target then because no one is fitting out the rear window because of it's rake.
Hopefully it never comes to it though!
Change of plan then - the rear door windows are the target then because no one is fitting out the rear window because of it's rake.
Hopefully it never comes to it though!
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when I bought our nissan QQ with a pano roof i asked whether it was a failure point for insurance or if autoglass would cover it if damaged as a window replacement .
the sales person (who could have been talking arse of course) said they were so thick they were to all intents and purposes unbreakable.
if I had to get out I would probably just go for side window and dukes of hazard it out..
that said to counter that.... the pano glass roof on my ipace was cracked when I went to view the car and had to be replaced under warranty.
so that kind of torpedo's my last comment.... but it still would not be the 1st pane I would try to break
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It's not mine now either
. I suppose I assumed that it wouldn't be like a windscreen as it's not a windscreen. Assumptions huh! I thought it being the biggest window and being able to stand up once it's out would give the best chance of escape. Ah well, Daisy Duke it is then 
.Tesla glass roof obviously looks like a tough nut;
The nhtsa begged to disagree on the liability of the tesla electric door releases - must be something where both usa and eu car design rules will be updated for all mftrs,
and it's surprising newer chinese cars have used similar approach;
however if you have a crash in the dark then a hammer would need to be reachable , similarly for the unfortunate UK couple who tried to cross the flooded underpass
The nhtsa begged to disagree on the liability of the tesla electric door releases - must be something where both usa and eu car design rules will be updated for all mftrs,
and it's surprising newer chinese cars have used similar approach;
however if you have a crash in the dark then a hammer would need to be reachable , similarly for the unfortunate UK couple who tried to cross the flooded underpass
With cheaper DC charging, government EV grants and cheap decent Chinese electric cars from the likes of BYD, Leapmotor and MG - I think the moment when 50% of the newly sold cars in a month are EVs may not be too far away.
Hopefully Tesla will bring Model Y and 3 standard editions to UK sometime soon as well.
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It was interesting when he asked a young guy if he would buy an ev, and the reply was no because he loves the torque of a diesel engine.
I wonder what ev's are well known for
To be fair there are old V12 diesels with insane amount of torque, but hopefully government regulations and clean city zones completely eliminate all diesel polluters from the roads. I've recently had a look at prices for big new vans - unfortunately, even with the government 5000 quid grant for electric vans, the price for diesels is almost half of electric. So diesel vans are going to be with us for quite some time...
Two we've been looking at recently from China, were the MG HS Hybrid+ and the Jaecoo7
A friend has the Jaecoo7 and he rates it, even with the less than perfect ride.
Also checked 2 from Korea with the Tucson and Kona, which are obviously miles ahead ATM, but I would expect the Chinese to be working on bridging that gap asap.
A friend has the Jaecoo7 and he rates it, even with the less than perfect ride.
Also checked 2 from Korea with the Tucson and Kona, which are obviously miles ahead ATM, but I would expect the Chinese to be working on bridging that gap asap.
one last thing - in the shower did the ev mention it's torque at the wheels that counts, hence the recent discussion on ID3 performance;
there is an interesting engineering explained discussion on how much torque is useful too.
e: hence revolution on ev gearboxes too
torque curve on 200bhp id3 says a lot on overtakes V
unfortunately the newer cars with the more efficient 550 motor/280bhp&pre-conditioning not yet at my 20K prices (ford explorer seems to be approaching fastest)
Non-dcc car with higher profile tyres maybe another option for comfort too, after all replacing worn adaptive dampers probably not cheap , that, also combats local pot-holes.
the APP550 has a longer gear ratio. Those 550 Nm wouldn't have been able to be delivered to the road with a short transmission anyway. So, comparing the ID.4 APP310 vs. the ID.7 APP550, the APP550 delivers "only" 8.2% more power when starting off, not 77.4% as one might assume at first glance. From 3600 rpm, the maximum output of 210 kW is reached, which corresponds to 61.6 km/h for the ID.7.
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I've been considering the MG S5EV and the Jaecoo 5 EV. Both feel a really nice place to be, although the Jaecoo has some horrid shiny black plastic trim which annoys me. I think the MG wins on most things, but i do like the idea of ventilated seats in the Jaecoo. Slightly cheaper too.
It's a tricky mental balance for me right now
MGS5 EV ~€35k with almost every extra you could hope for and a reasonable range. 8yr warranty
Skoda Elroq 85 ~€35k gets me a 3mth old one but it's fairly basic spec which loses things like electric seats and doesn't feel as nice inside. It has around 15% more range though. Only a 4yr warranty (although 8 on batteries)
Price is pretty much the same, but the Skoda is tempting me. It looks better and you'd hope it'd last better over the long term i plan to own it for.
We, or should I say the OH was drawn to the bells and whistles that came with the Jaecoo7 and tbh the plastic didn't really bother both of us. Have seen and felt the same type in the new Porsche Cayenne's and can forget quickly enough once driving.
The Skoda has the name and good history, but as you say above...It could all come down to the warranty and how long you expect to keep the car.
I would probably go for the Skoda now and then look again at the Chinese offerings when looking again.
Piano black trim seems to be coming back into fashion...with the manufactures at least!
Mine has a few bits, annoyingly on parts that you touch so it looks crap pretty quickly. I bought some cheap matt black wrap and just used that to cover it, massive improvement.
Mine has a few bits, annoyingly on parts that you touch so it looks crap pretty quickly. I bought some cheap matt black wrap and just used that to cover it, massive improvement.
Yeah, i think that was my concern with the Jaecoo, no point having an 8yr warranty if they disappear in 3 years. At least MG have established themselves over the last 6 years and so felt they were a little more safe vs the other Chinese brands.
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I get confused by the torque curves that show rpm. A EV motor full speed is more like 15-20k.
The AP550 motor is much more powerful but the power limit to stop it crashing, snapping driveshafts etc and is why it doesn’t take off that much quicker than a AP310 car. Once over 40 it really goes but they are being safe on the low speed power even in cupra mode with gives 240kW. A bit frustrating but it’s prob for the best of general public
It does also mean the gradual build provides great grip and consistency. It’s a 13.4 quarter mile car which is only 0.5 sec beyond an I pace. (Same 105 mph terminal) Which feels much faster from the bum dyno
This is direct comparison of having cars with both 310 and 550 motors
Had a go in a mates ex30 twin motor yesterday. That things comedy how it picks up speed. But he says power from battery Drops off very quickly. Even at 80 % it’s slower. And 60% I think it’s about 1.5 sec slower to 60 which he finds really annoying as you never really have the full performance.
The born VZ will do 5.2 0-60 at 26%. 5.0 flat when full. So it definitely has consistent performance. A factor often overlooked I think
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The ex30 has a pretty small battery doesn’t it? Circa 64kwh where as the VZ is 79kwh isn’t it? Either way the battery will be the limiting factor.
Yes exactly. But more than just size. Cells, layout etc. look at dewalt powerstack
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the ap 550 comment I posted suggests that the gearing is what is limiting it's take of speed , to the merit of over 40+ oomph and economic lower revs at higher speed,
following smart #5 comments, a video I watched suggested geely have either software or similarly hardware/gearing that has the same effect,
which too, is what I thought bmw have suggested will enable neu-klasse to be competitive with CLA on autobahn.
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whats take of speed, cos the AP550 allows higher top speed, thats why its geared longer.
Nothing to do with chinese cars... again. Quoting yourself when you only have questions anyway, have you been identified as a narcissist before?
Nothing to do with chinese cars... again. Quoting yourself when you only have questions anyway, have you been identified as a narcissist before?