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what came first this or the vic 20? i had the 20
I built my daughter a Roblox PC from a 4th gen i5. All depends what you need.
The VIC 20 did.
It was the fore-runner to the VIC64 whitch obviously became the C64 etc
So called for the dedicated VIC and then later, the SID Chips.
To this day, I still say that the C16 and Plus/4 had the best implimentation of BASIC than ANY other 8 bit EVER!
For what its worth, I was a spoiled git and my uncle was a programmer and he got me heavily into computers... I have owned EVERY Commodore, Amstrad, Sinclair, they released, and even a load of others such as the Texas Instrumens, BBC, Acorn, Oric Toshiba, and others, but by far the most fun to program in basic was the Plus/4 and for Assembly, the C64
I still have most of them, and some work, some dont... only last month I was twiddlign about with a C128 as some of them fell in the attic and its broken the Keyboard and I wanted to test it. Some keys are now done in and Im gutted
Also the main Diskdrive for the commodore 8 bits is the 1541 Drive. I have 3 of them still, plus I also have 2 BlueChip Drives, however the Plus/4 could also use a 1551 Drive and while the 1541 was Serial, the 1551 was parallel and it was way quicker to use.
I was surprised they never made it for the C64 as that was by far Commodores most popular 8 bit they did.
Similarly, Sinclair did the QL - Also still got one - That had the WaferDrive... Another genius bit of tech that could have made sinclair better machines.
I can go on, and I usually do, but I will stop there!
Interesting article but don't agree with writer , see what you guys think of his list and reasoning..
Quick list but please read the article for more in depth explanation.
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6 CPUs that are officially too old in 2025
It might be the end of the line for your trusty ol' CPUwww.xda-developers.com
Productivity CPU's
Ryzen 9 3900X slow productivity
Intel Core i9-11900K slower in productivity workloads Despite being the newer than the 10900k.
Gaming CPU'S
Intel Core i5-9600K Despite being a capable CPU even in 2025, it struggles to provide an enjoyable gaming experience in some newer titles.
Core i5-10400F time to start looking for an upgrade, especially if you're already running a newer graphics card.
Ryzen 5 3600 you can almost double your FPS by jumping to the Ryzen 5 7600 or Ryzen 5 7600X
Oh well, I have a 3900x luckily most of the AAA games that require anything decent are **** so I don’t need to worry about upgrading. Same applies for my graphic card.

Seems daft to me. If it still works for your use case, it's not too old.