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Hmm. Maybe my i7700 + 3080ti is too old, but it plays all the games at 60fps 4k so i dunno
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6 CPUs that are officially too old in 2025
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he doesn't like the i9 10900k but its cheaper cousin could keep me gaming at 4K for a few years yet ... i'm sure we'd all like a flashy new rig every six months, but i've only had 3 in the last 15 years:
i5 2500k
i7 6700k
i9 10850k
Nova Lake next year? Yeah maybe.
i5 2500k
i7 6700k
i9 10850k
Nova Lake next year? Yeah maybe.
But you wouldn’t recommend a chip like a 10850k today. A 5950X would walk all over it for less than half the power.
Add i7 8700K (even OC'ed to 5GHz) to that list, it's far too old if you want to use a 2025 flagship graphics card.
I saw so many mention "if your CPU isn't hitting 100% utilization then you are not CPU bound" only to find that statement was absolute nonsense since I was not even close to 100% CPU utilization while gaming. There are far too many caveats to make a statement that simple.
Frame rate jump after upgrading was dramatic to say the least, over double in many games!
I saw so many mention "if your CPU isn't hitting 100% utilization then you are not CPU bound" only to find that statement was absolute nonsense since I was not even close to 100% CPU utilization while gaming. There are far too many caveats to make a statement that simple.
Frame rate jump after upgrading was dramatic to say the least, over double in many games!
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Any gamer or average Joe running older Intel and *not* disabling spectre/meltdown, is being foolish.
Of course you'll never miss a trick to twist the knife though.
Edit: TBH, in the CPU section, your account should have some sort of flag next to it, showing the extreme bias.
Of course you'll never miss a trick to twist the knife though.
Edit: TBH, in the CPU section, your account should have some sort of flag next to it, showing the extreme bias.
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Yeah, windows is going to apply the security patch for the gamers. MS wants people to upgrade their CPUs too.
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Inspectre is always there for the lazy.
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Hey I have one of those, have not had cause to upgrade it at all.
Then again, I'm not obsessed by having frame rates higher than my IQ
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im not obsessed but i do love having a refresh rate higher than my iqHey I have one of those, have not had cause to upgrade it at all.
Then again, I'm not obsessed by having frame rates higher than my IQ
which is a good thing because this screen has a30hz refresh rate and thats literally the only thing it has going for it, higher refresh than its users iq
Yeah a lot of the security stuff doesn't affect gaming performance any more than other CPUs anyhow, and the Spectre/Meltdown mitigations which have the biggest performance hit aren't necessary on desktop - only relevant to server type usage as they can only be exploited once someone already has partial system access i.e. virtual private servers or other server hosting situations, the browser relevant mitigations are important - though you'd have to be incredibly unlucky to be exploited that way.
I still use 10th gen Intels and a Xeon 1650 V2 for gaming as well as my 14700K and have a number of AMD 7000 series based systems albeit aside from the Lenovo Legion Go I don't use them for gaming to base my opinion on as well as wider experience from friends and family's setups, etc. so as usual jigger is way off reality.
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The hard reality is depending on system configuration, Intels security mitigations are baked in at BIOS, micro code and or OS even middleware level. Possibly all of the above. Like it or not, affected users are taking a significant processing hit especially those on Windows 11.
The situation is unfortunate and upsetting I know…
The situation is unfortunate and upsetting I know…
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I'm still doing Fusion 360 work on a 3770 and Quadro P400, my never-ending Asteria II project is still a 6700K and her Kepler Titan might be getting a huge upgrade to a 980 Ti if I can shift 3 mount points on the waterblock by 2mm. I'm still on the look out for a sensibly-priced 9900K so I can play with BIOS modding my Z170 board.
Too old my arse, sounds like it's a slow day even for AI slop.
Too old my arse, sounds like it's a slow day even for AI slop.
Yeah no - some of the early patches had a bigger impact but later patches reduced the impact on gaming performance and users can selectively apply mitigations, in most cases users are looking at under 5% performance hit, usually 0-2%, to gaming performance, there may be the odd lower end older model CPU the impact is a bit higher.
lol, are you seriously arguing the Windows 11 push and Intel security mitigation along with BIOS level access isn’t hurting the vast majority of Intel users… You really are a special person.
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No it really isn't hurting the vast majority of people gaming on Intel, there are plenty of articles reviewing gaming performance with the latest mitigations. Anything newer than 7th gen it is virtually no impact.
I'd care less but there are several instances people have taken your advice under advisement when it is against their better interests.
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You really should look at all the security mitigation measures in place for Intel and how they applied. Then think of that in context to the article if you can…
I agree with much of this article the more I think how far desktop computing has come over the last years. My 1800X system was great in 2017 and offered stinking good performance for the £1500 or so it cost me to upgrade. I wouldn’t go back to that system now though, as it would get destroyed by an entry level Zen for a third of the price.
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I put together my v4 Xeon system again today with Windows 10 LTSC. Spectre/meltdown mitigations disabled, as you would.
It’s still alright to use, and I could easily have a good time gaming on this setup.
Can’t say I’m surprised to hear that you would agree with a badly made (possibly AI?) article from XDA Developers. I feel like you go out of the way to miss the point. If you still have these setups, they don’t cease to work. Windows 11 is not a great reason to upgrade a setup.
It’s still alright to use, and I could easily have a good time gaming on this setup.
Can’t say I’m surprised to hear that you would agree with a badly made (possibly AI?) article from XDA Developers. I feel like you go out of the way to miss the point. If you still have these setups, they don’t cease to work. Windows 11 is not a great reason to upgrade a setup.
What?
I built an X99 system in 2015 IIRC. I wasn’t overly impressed with the performance back then. I still have the board and CPU somewhere…