probably just institutions rebalancing portfolios.
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I’m hoping that it goes down further..
I’m in the midst of transferring my work call options shares to a broker into an ISA account, to sell then to transfer the cash into my regular ISA account to buy shares in ETFs…
Not trying to time the market but if there was a drop in the ETFs that I use, and less of a drop in the company shares.. it will suit me just fine.
If you've lost money this year you need to seriously reasses what you're doing...Or...
Lve lost an entire year's profits...
Or
I've lost an entire year's time investigating..
These are completely valid things to say it's weird you won't see it like this. I guess its part of a risk coping mindset. Obviously it has to do either scales and long or short term outlooks.
I've personally swung over half a million Kronor this year and its gut wrenching.
I hopelessly exposed to us tech
It's still fun money at this stage but it's been a nasty year.
But you guys told me time in the market instead of timing the marketIf you've lost money this year you need to seriously reasses what you're doing...
Heres a perfect graph of my investment this year. If u can find a host uk can see.
I bought into this 2 days before trump 2025 lol
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But you guys told me time in the market instead of timing the market
Heres a perfect graph of my investment this year. If u can find a host uk can see.
I bought into this 2 days before trump 2025 lol
And what is it? Single stock?
I also got unlucky and shifted a lot of money in my private investment in an all world tracker weeks before the Trump slump, so about 60k is "only" up 4%.
conversely, I moved some ofy US pension that was trapped in a work bond scheme i to VT at about the low point, and that is up 18%. The problem was i was overly cautious and a lot of that portfolio stayed in treasuries
Biggest learning curve ever and phycological test , my dvlt , not sure if you saw was hit by wolfpack shorting group , hit my min profit stops , i mean it lost a third plus there was massive manipulation , anyway back in with caution , earnings soon so ,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know how it works
red wine investment last night 5 mins before close 3k quantum computing 2k bbai both ive had before , nice buffer already ,looking for reversals , too soon? bbai also earnings so i will see how the build up goes
edit dvlt lost two thirds at the worst around a dollar
red wine investment last night 5 mins before close 3k quantum computing 2k bbai both ive had before , nice buffer already ,looking for reversals , too soon? bbai also earnings so i will see how the build up goes
edit dvlt lost two thirds at the worst around a dollar
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Beginner long term investor here, certainly not knowledgeable enough to trade.
What's with all the doom and gloom in here? Shouldn't you lot be shorting the market and continuing to make money?
What's with all the doom and gloom in here? Shouldn't you lot be shorting the market and continuing to make money?
Easy way to lose money betting against the market.
they should, but they aren't really traders but gamblers that get luck in a bull market.
The market as a whole, but if you are are a trader then you don;t care about the market as you are not investing. You can easily find stocks to short, increased volatility means increased opportunities. A monotonically increasing market is not good traders.
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Bain capital is a famous hedge fund, you dont fool me
Shorting is borrowing and you must pay back what you owe, since already you sold the stock (and others now own it) it can be very painful. The whole GME deal was around this, some people watch for short reversal plays.
I suggested someone with 10k barc shares from their work saving scheme in the '08 cycle give out an option on their stock at 400p or lower. You cant lose much that way and you gain the premium for coverage.
Every sale is a purchase, if you short stock you are long the currency as it is the common denominator. Forex gets confusing but they are trashing the currency as often as they can
Does anyone like, hold SMT longer term ? https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2025/11/scottish-trust-invests-in-economic-transformation/
Shorting is borrowing and you must pay back what you owe, since already you sold the stock (and others now own it) it can be very painful. The whole GME deal was around this, some people watch for short reversal plays.
I suggested someone with 10k barc shares from their work saving scheme in the '08 cycle give out an option on their stock at 400p or lower. You cant lose much that way and you gain the premium for coverage.
Every sale is a purchase, if you short stock you are long the currency as it is the common denominator. Forex gets confusing but they are trashing the currency as often as they can
Does anyone like, hold SMT longer term ? https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2025/11/scottish-trust-invests-in-economic-transformation/
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Salty…
CFD is a higher level of gambling!
I’m steering well clear, if you think that buying individual stocks in a bull market (even after a bit of dip) is risky/gambling - try CFD with 10-1 leverage.
The one thing if I would like to try on T212 and there were discussions about it, is options trading
Not to buy the options, but It would be nice to have ability to sell calls/puts like they can in US and collect premiums - until you get assigned and ruined! (100 shares needed for 1 contract)
It’s even more dangerous than CFD though but I’m curious how it could be used. It’s probably for best that T212 don’t offer it, as you do see lots of horror stories on wallstreetbets.
Yes I was about to comment that have you not seen wallstreetbets - until you mentioned it
Things like T212 have to make money somewhere (CFD) but the further you expand your business down this line - the higher the chance of bad publicity because of people 'losing their money' on your platform..
But I believe IG has options, and it's not much of a step up...
Things like T212 have to make money somewhere (CFD) but the further you expand your business down this line - the higher the chance of bad publicity because of people 'losing their money' on your platform..
But I believe IG has options, and it's not much of a step up...
Iirc when they go down that route they have put that visible disclaimer on the site like 'x number of investors lose money trading this product'Yes I was about to comment that have you not seen wallstreetbets - until you mentioned it
Things like T212 have to make money somewhere (CFD) but the further you expand your business down this line - the higher the chance of bad publicity because of people 'losing their money' on your platform..
But I believe IG has options, and it's not much of a step up...
It's very much gambling and not investing.
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My take - A little bit too soon, I would have waited a little bit longer to just before the next Fed rate decision when I think they will cut rates again, and this will boost the speculative tech stocks (hopefully).
But you guys told me time in the market instead of timing the market
Heres a perfect graph of my investment this year. If u can find a host uk can see.
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I bought into this 2 days before trump 2025 lol
WHAT THE HELL... lol
What extacting is this fund? Ticker please? there's only a hand full of Swedish tech companies namely; Spotify, Ericsson, and Klarna.
Are you mixing your nordic countries? and was meant to be backing Norway's Tech fund? who has one of the largest sovereign wealth funds backing their AI research.
No it's a Swedish product not based on Nordic technology companies.
It's almost all USA NASDAQ (90%)
Swedbank Robur technology A
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if you had just bought big name tech stocks you'd probably be up healthily.
I'm up 83% on google since march for example.
nvidia 61%
amd 131%
intel 80%
techs done amazing, what is that fund invested in when it says tech? did you look at their actual holdings and percentages of each stock?
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I don't do funds/etc but all the van eck ones seem to be up from 20-100% maybe they don't diversify so much across weak stocks and you end up at the point where you might as well have just bought the nasdaq/sp500 instead of your Swedish fund.
nasdaqs up 20% in a rolling year so how are you down?
I honestly don't get how people lost money in a glorious bullrun where almost any stock is up int he last year
chatgpt says SEK going from buying 0.092$ to 0.10$ now means if the nasdaq went up 20% then your fund whilst taking a currency exchange hit would still be up 10%?
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