It’s probably just someone running a 5.8 all core on chiller, I’d expect the 9700X3D to come in around 5ghz stock clocks. AMD has probably been saving up the dies which didn’t make the cut for the 9800X3D.
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9850X3D and 9950X3D2 rumours.
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i deffo assumed these were saved up dies that didnt quite make the 9800x3d cut but not too far off type thing like with the zen 3 x3d models im guessing
and ahhh that makes sense with the test results then.
still very interesting
and probably going to arrive just slightly too late for me lol
maybe an excuse to update the bedroom rig to am5 later on then though
Interesting I'll do more research I suppose if I buy the build if the ram does not run at full speed take 32gb out or buy a new 64gb kit I'll look into itI'm running 4 sticks 6200 on my 7950x3D without any issues on current AGESA and that's on B650 chipset.
I've checked first on my vendor's website (MSI) compatibility with modules and got ones they tested working well on my mobo - initially 2x16GB but later I just got 2 more of the same modules and they work great in this configuration. However, MSI specifically stated with be bios updates that new AGESA improves considerably compatibility with 4 modules - and there turned out to be accurate. I was worried about higher latency but they actually seem to be working tiny bit faster instead, in this config (or agesa again improved it).
Possibly chips that didn’t fit the EPYC or Treadripper profile too. I have a hunch that’s where the 7800X3D parts are sourced from.
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I've also seen rumours about a 9700x3d now
I thought the 9700x3d was a faked benchmark from an overclocked 9700x. I haven't seen anything to confirm or debunk the 9850x3d or 9950x3d2
Apologies, that is what I was referring to. The faked 9700X3D
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Not sure of it was fake or not. Just something I remember seeing yesterday.
Edit... So yes seems like it was fake.
Edit... So yes seems like it was fake.
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They're not rumours mate - 9950X3D2 will launch next year. We'll hear more about it at CEX.
I'd personally pickup a £389 9800X3D from OCUK while you wait for it.
Depends how happy you are to pay a premium I suppose. The EPYC 9184X for example is £3k or more for a pair of 8 core X3D chips.
I would imagine it gets trickled down into the mainstream chips at some point.
I still find its a bit odd to even have so many non-X3D variants when thats clearly what the people want.
I might get the terminology a little wrong here, but the interconnect between the CCDs was always the bottleneck. More often than not the games that take advantage of the 3D vcache were more than happy with the number of threads that one CCD could provide, so isolating the game's CPU usage to one CCD was always the way to optimise performance, whether it be via driver optimisations or manually setting it in Ryzen Master.
I guess AMD's idea was to rather have all the cache available to that one CCD in use, rather than sharing it and either introducing more latency or halving the amount of cache available.
It's what gamers and ultra high-end non-gamers want, but I'd wager that the majority of AMD's CPU client base doesn't fall into either of those categories and doesn't want to spend the extra money on something they don't want or need.
They did say they tested it before the 9000 series X3D cpu came out and it wasn't really worthwhile then, most likely due to that interconnect bottleneck.
But if Zen 6 is a while away then they probably felt they have to release something even if subject to heavy diminishing returns while people are still shouting for them to release a version like this.
But if Zen 6 is a while away then they probably felt they have to release something even if subject to heavy diminishing returns while people are still shouting for them to release a version like this.
I suppose that does make sense yeah, I always thought the 9950X3D seemed a little strange as a proposition as its not that much more advantageous over the standard 9950X.
I mean it all comes down to the pricing but in an ideal world the current prices of the X3D models will go down a little to what the non-X3D variants are and the X3D2 ones become the new X3D instead of having all these variants that are not too different from each other. The amount of CPU's is just too much really and it'll end up being much more worthwhile if they could streamline the offerings a bit
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I would love a pair of 7800X3D chips on a single socket though, or even a pair 5800/5700X3D. I expected AMD to introduce dual X3D parts with its AM5 EPYC line. I think AMD could have left some cash table there.
Depends if you need the performance on offer, then it absolutely makes sense even in the same generation.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-ryzen-7-9850x3d-an-even-faster-8-core-cpu-with-3d-v-cache
5.6Ghz clock seems like a decent jump. It’s a shame DDR5 prices have gone bonkers.
5.6Ghz clock seems like a decent jump. It’s a shame DDR5 prices have gone bonkers.