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Is the Arc B580 worth it for a Ryzen 1700 and older games?

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I have a 1700 (@3.8Ghz, although I could push it a bit more) and I saw that the B580 is only £200, if I could sell the Battlefield 6 it comes with, I might be able to get it for around £160. I an not really interested in playing new games and lower settings and lower FPS, I just want to play older games maxed out, Cyberpunk 2077, Metro Exodus, Hogwarts Legacy (maybe) would be the most demanding. I would need to get a new monitor as well as my old HZ27WC, that is still hanging on, only has a DVI input. I would probably go with a cheapish higher refresh rate 1440p IPS, a 60hz 32" or just spend £500 or so on a nice 32" 4k QD-OLED. What are everyone's thoughts, is this a stupid idea, or should I just want until I get a new system?

I have an old 1060 3GB if anyone is wondering.
 
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I did spot a B570 in the clearance section earlier for £185.
You could make them an offer and see what they say.

Alternatively, yes, the used market is most likely what I'd be looking at.
Best to check benchmarks to see how each of the GPU vendors performs with your choice of games.
 
Previously I would have just said "no", because of the driver overhead (with an old Ryzen) and you'd need to check the status of rebar, but Intel have improved things a lot since launch. Though, it doesn't apply to all games.

9060 XT 16GB would be a safer option, especially if you're thinking of 4K, but can appreciate even with a Gibbo special on Monday it won't be cheap.

I'd expect some games to actually play better with a 5600/5700X and B580 than a 9060 XT 16GB and 1700, even at 4K :o


 
Make sure you're on the most recent (CPU supporting) bios of your motherboard, you need REBAR or the Intel GPU's will not be optimal.

Unfortunately, some AM4 motherboards don't have a lot of room on their bios chips, so updating to the latest REBAR capable bios might mean your CPU could become unsupported.

I'd look at buying a second hand 5600 + an Intel 580, if you're on a budget at least as the 1700 is a crap gaming CPU and was when it launched. It offered good value for core count/productivity and little else, it was still heavily behind the Intel 7600/7700 chips which are almost a decade old.

Check the MM, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get a 5600 for less than £40-50, the CPU would be huge gaming and even productivity uplift over what you have.
 
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Think I'll go for it, despite it being only pci-e 4.0 x8 and I only have 3.0, rebar works with my MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon. Just need to choose a monitor.
 
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I'm waiting for Zen 6, and I have no interest in new games, I just want to player slightly older games maxed out.
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You're not going to be playing those games with everything at max @ 4K with the Arc, you know that right? They're still fairly demanding, even compared to the newest games.

1440p is easier, but even then, I'd consider it equivalent to an entry level card. For someone who wants to play at max details @ 1440p/4K, we'd normally be recommending a minimum of a 9070 or 5070, which are twice as fast.
 
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You're not going to be playing those games with everything at max @ 4K with the Arc, you know that right? They're still fairly demanding, even compared to the newest games.

1440p is easier, but even then, I'd consider it equivalent to an entry level card. For someone who wants to play at max details @ 1440p/4K, we'd normally be recommending a minimum of a 9070 or 5070, which are twice as fast.
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Yes, I am fully aware. But games like GTA V, Dying Light, No Man's Sky on max or almost max should be possible. And with 4k you can fall back on 1080p. I don't feel the need to play new games, older games are just as good. Plus it doesn't draw a lot of power (got an AX1000 so that isn't an issue anyway) and value for money, agreed a deal on MM for £140.

Although if HL3 is announced, I'll might regret it.

But yes, I am fully aware that it's a weak card and how demanding 4k is.
 
The core performance from the 1700 is so weak nowadays though. The driver overhead issue is fixed *in some games* but it's not a completely resolved issue.
For the weaker core performance I'd look at AMD. Nvidia also with some driver overhead.
 
Tbh, I would save a bit more money and stretch for a 9060XT 8Gb, Black Friday is coming and it's the sort of card that could see a serious discount for these event. The 9060XT is 25% to 30% faster then B580 and performance is more consistent and you get FSR4.

I know the vram arguement is their in favour of the B580 but the 9060XT comes with a full fat PCI x16 pinned out connector which mitigates tte lower vram issue (all GPU's come with the same connection but at the lower end companies will often only put n them for x8 to save some money the RTX 5060 8Gb is an example of this which despite being in a the same class as the 9060XT often runs out of memory buffer in benchmarks).
 
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