Can he stop the thief?

Uther said:
He actually looked like a banker. Or an MP.
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Same thing pretty much. Most of them started out in banking of some kind. Learn to spend other people's money, then move in to a job where you can't be sacked when you balls it up.
 
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The TV Series Shoplifters At War With The Law was eye opening.
It was full of shop footage of scum walking in, filling bags with stuff while security verbally asking them to stop and then they just walk out.
Sometimes the Cops would catch up with them but because in every case they were prolific offenders it seemed to be just a case of taking the stuff back.
 
I have a friend whose a security guard in a retail store and for his own safety he is not allowed to leave that store to pursue an offender - if he did he would face a disciplinary.

Funny really but then if you look at the amount of people you see in the 'whose been sentenced listings' each month that get suspended sentences for assaulting a police officer or sexual assault you realise that in the UK we don't do much to deter criminals.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Even at the hospital we've had Security Guards who won't Security Guard :)
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I know most of the security team, and you should have seen them the other day. Cubicle 16 in A-Bay, two of the chaps getting into it with a dusthead that was getting increasingly agitated and threatening violence towards the nursing staff and me. During the ensuing altercation with security this guy kept on trying to go for his bag. After they'd restrained him and the police were called they found an 8" kitchen knife in his bag. :eek:
 
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I've witnessed someone stealing stuff in Aldi
The security guard just stood at the exit watching, bro doesn't get paid enough to put himself in harms way.

They are just a deterrent more than anything to put of the common toe-rag.
 
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It is worst than you think.
My friend was in a shop and some guy walked out with some goods without paying...
She looked at the security like.. "are you gonna do something?"...
The security looked back at her and said: if you wanna leave with that, I'm not going to stop you...
 
They should introduce one-way systems in smaller shops, just as they do in supermarkets. A few supermarkets have barriers that let you in and also out once you've paid. You're expected to get your shopping, work your way to the checkouts and pay before exiting - in Morrisons they have usually have a security guard near the automated barriers at the self serve checkouts.

Security guards should be given stab vests as part of their uniform, this way they might feel more confident in apprehending lowlife. Otherwise let's just not bother with security guards, as all they are doing is standing around trying to look intimidating, when in reality nobody seems to be scared of them.
 
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I remember working at a shop years ago and we were told to not bother chasing/stopping anyone. I remember one guy who was an aspiring police officer legged it after this bloke and chased him about 400 metres down the road. The crim stopped running and told our man to **** off or he'd stab him.... He came back empty handed. Lol! I don't believe he bothered after that. :D
 
I remember years ago, saw a security guard chasing a smack rat with a TV in hand running, someone 'accidently' stuck a foot out as the thief went passed . . . . smashed straight into the pavement face first, pooring with blood.

I happily entered the supermarket and carried on shopping with my mum.
 
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Nelly said:
I remember years ago, saw a security guard chasing a smack rat with a TV in hand running, someone 'accidently' stuck a foot out as the thief went passed . . . . smashed straight into the pavement face first, pooring with blood.

I happily entered the supermarket and carried on shopping with my mum.
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You would probably end up in court for "assault" and they would walk these days.

darael said:
They should introduce one-way systems in smaller shops, just as they do in supermarkets. A few supermarkets have barriers that let you in and also out once you've paid. You're expected to get your shopping, work your way to the checkouts and pay before exiting - in Morrisons they have usually have a security guard near the automated barriers at the self serve checkouts.

Security guards should be given stab vests as part of their uniform, this way they might feel more confident in apprehending lowlife. Otherwise let's just not bother with security guards, as all they are doing is standing around trying to look intimidating, when in reality nobody seems to be scared of them.
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Yep but all that happens if someone pushing in the wrong way is a beeper goes off and the security guard does nothing.
 
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Nasher said:
Yep but all that happens if someone pushing in the wrong way is a beeper goes off and the security guard does nothing.
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Exactly, in this country it's pointless.
I was in Budapest earlier this year in one of their markets with the barriers where you need your receipt to go through.
This bloke just climbed over and Security pounced on him and dragged him off probably for a kicking.

I'll tell you what that supermarket had for mainly the homeless -
They'd turn up with multiple carrier bags filled with bottles both glass and plastic, put them in a machine and they'd get paid.
 
Couple of years back I was in TK Maxx and this dude just sidled up near me where I was looking at coats, pulled out this almighty sized bag (think the huge Ikea bag) and started stuffing coats into it. After filling it, walked straight out and nobody batted an eyelid about it.

I can see why people don't get involved tbh as about 30 years ago I was working at a leisure centre when a young teenage girl decided to nick someone's purse from the changing room and leg it out. One big fail on her part was she was still wearing her swimming costume and left her clothes still inside a locker when she decided to leg it with purse in hand. I got a report on the radio of the theft and legged it after her as she ran off down the seafront, then the penny dropped as she was bare footed and only in her swimwear, so she stopped and I carefully walked her back to the centre.
Unbeknownst to me or her, she'd stolen a police officers wife's purse and he was stood at the reception when I walked back in with her, still in his swim shorts. He started shouting at her and called her by her name, so he knew her but then said, without ID that he was a copper and that he was going to arrest her for theft. I said "Not a chance - I have no idea who you are, even if she has stolen your wife's purse." He wasn't happy about it, but eventually he identified himself and we let it take it's course.
About a week later we had a couple of officers come in as they did just for a browse on their beat (when they still used to do that) and I mentioned about the theft etc and they said "Oh yeah, we heard about that. It was Sargent BoatyMcBoatFace (no idea of his name) from the next big town over - he wanted to arrest you for obstruction of justice."

So yeah, I retrieved his wife's belongings for him and the thanks I got was he wanted to arrest me for obstruction because I didn't believe he was a police officer when he's only stood there in a pair of swim shorts. Oh and neither him, nor his wife said thank you.
This is why I won't get involved unless it's ever directly my family or friends.
 
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After skim reading some of this thread...
Am I right in thinking X shops, rarely prosecute now under the value of £250? I definitely remember hearing that one or the other doesn't?
That would explain a lot of what people have seen?
 
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After skim reading some of this thread...
Am I right in thinking X shops, rarely prosecute now under the value of £250? I definitely remember hearing that one or the other doesn't?
That would explain a lot of what people have seen?
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Could walk off with a TV on black Friday for that :D
 
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