Chinese CPU is competitive with modern Intel ones

[Zarax]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/homegrown-chinese-cpus-bring-core-i7-raptor-lake-performance-to-domestic-gaming-pcs-hygon-c86-4g-lands-between-a-core-i7-13700-and-core-i7-14700

Intel is going to be in trouble...

 

[Hotwired]

It's AMD in a trenchcoat.

 

[Monkeynut]

So it's basically Zen 1 with DDR5 + some other enhancements, and is still pants at single-core.

 

[Armageus]

So it's basically Zen 1 with DDR5 + some other enhancements, and is still pants at single-core.

Fairly unsurprising, but pretty much if you start with a very similar product to Zen 1 and are able to implement some of the changes AMD made to keep it competitive over the years, that even a Chinese derivative will be somewhat competitive.

What is the performance like of "clean slate" Chinese CPUs?

 

[jigger]

So it's basically Zen 1 with DDR5 + some other enhancements, and is still pants at single-core.

Yes it’s a multi core design. Make sure you buy more than a single core for the best experience.

It’s interesting that updating the IO and adding DDR5 support to Zen 1/1.5 has brought the performance upto Intel.

 

[FredFlint]

AMD Zen 2/3 got a big bump in performance by increasing L3 from 16MB to 32MB and then going from 2*16MB to 1*32MB L3. I remember a video from AMD saying they got 30% extra performance from that.

 

[Rroff]

It’s interesting that updating the IO and adding DDR5 support to Zen 1/1.5 has brought the performance upto Intel.

A large factor there is core count - the V-Ray numbers show that core for core it is roughly the same as Intel's Gracemont E cores - a hypothetical 16 E core / 32 thread CPU would score about the same.