Beginners Camera help

[ak22]

I am considering getting a camera, it will used for taking photos while on holiday and I will try some street photograph & landscapes when im not abroad.
I would like something light so mirror less? I will be buying used, I’m not sure where to start the last camera I used was Nikon D70 20 years ago.

So I will be learning everything again, I think I will prefer a camera with dials & buttons than using the touch screen, so far I have looked at the Fuji X-T3, XS-10, Nikkon Z50,Z50, Z6

I was looking at zfc but I think the X-T3 will be better choice? Or the Z50 although it doesn’t have those dials I like...

What are pros/cons for each manufacture? e.g cheaper lens better 3rd party support?

What should i look out for when buying used apart from high shutter count?

 

[TheBrooder]

I'm in a similar situation as you, even down to the D70! I just ordered an Olympus E-M1 Mark III from MPB as I wanted the computational features and image stabilization as I'm not going to be carrying a tripod around.

I opted for the Olympus as it's decently priced second hand ,weather sealed, and quite small.

 

[whitecrook]

high shutter count doesn't matter unless it's in multiple hundreds of thousands, and at this point usually the camera it self is heavily worn. Realistically how many pictures are you gonna take? You won't tickle the shutter count at all. What it does mean though is you can get a significantly cheaper bargain which allows you to get a a higher end camera (read : more knobs and less touch screen bs) for the same price.

 

[ak22]

I'm in a similar situation as you, even down to the D70! I just ordered an Olympus E-M1 Mark III from MPB as I wanted the computational features and image stabilization as I'm not going to be carrying a tripod around.

I opted for the Olympus as it's decently priced second hand ,weather sealed, and quite small.

Another camera to read up on! I forgot about Olympus I will have look.

 

[ak22]

high shutter count doesn't matter unless it's in multiple hundreds of thousands, and at this point usually the camera it self is heavily worn. Realistically how many pictures are you gonna take? You won't tickle the shutter count at all. What it does mean though is you can get a significantly cheaper bargain which allows you to get a a higher end camera (read : more knobs and less touch screen bs) for the same price.

Thanks for the reply i didn't understand your (read : more knobs and less touch screen bs) comment

 

[dave28]

Myself I have only ran into bad luck with high shutter count cameras. Not because the shutter dies but because everything else tends to be well worn such as squishy or sticky buttons and D-pads and that kind of thing.

Also dirty sensors and sometimes even dirty viewfinders I had sometimes on used cameras, also had a dead pixel on an LCD and scratched sensor.

 

[turbot1984]

@ak22 ... i've had a series of mirrorless Canons and Nikons over the years and always gone back to compact mirror, so Canon 100/200D, still use the latter with a series of canon & sigma lenses and taking with me to Spain on thursday.

 

[darkblade]

You're better off taking the time to find the right camera with a reasonable shutter count for the model. Pro cameras are designed for higher shutter counts compared to the consumer market. (Even so, I waited a few months before I found my D850 with 2.5k clicks. Obviously that's a bit of beast compared to what you are looking for!)
Be wary of anything sold privately with just the camera body and nothing else. Higher chance of it being stolen.

 

[whitecrook]

Thanks for the reply i didn't understand your (read : more knobs and less touch screen bs) comment

You want a camera with buttons and knobs? Rather than menu driven touchscreen nonsense? So i am suggesting you compromise on a used (not knackered or worn out….)
Pro spec camera which you can get for a similar price to a less used ameteur camera that doesn’t havethe twiddly knobs. Remember in a lot of cases the difference between the cameras is only in the handling and controls, often sensors and things are the same and of course the glass you put on will be identical. They will take identical pictures. A pro needs quick easy access to change settings fast since time is money. A hobbyist can usually make do with menus and overloaded controls. Since you explicitly mentioned this point i thought i would comments. 100k is nothing for a pro camera. Even better if its been used in a studio or even as a backup . If you want dslr cant go wrong with 5d mk iii or mk iv For a mirrorless i got an r8 but also use x100 so Ymmv.