Clearly I'm referring to your other posts where you are always seem willing to defend the killing of Palestinians (including women and children) by the IDF.
You are straw manning to a ridiculous degree there.
I'm saying that I think it's reprehensible for Netanyahu to publicly blame these killings on Australia recognising the need for a Palestinian state, which most countries agree is part of the path to a lasting peace. You know, to try and end the cycle of violence. Seems either dishonest or extremely naive to somehow believe that Israel laying waste to Gaza and killing 70,000 people (and continuing to annexe the West Bank) could not have had anything to do with motivating extremists to stage such an attack.
And I am saying you,
@dirtychinchilla and
@jpaul are Islamist terror apologists. You are dangling the strawman for everyone to see. Want to talk about dishonest or naive to blame Israel/Gaza for the Jihadi attack on Jews celebrating a religious holiday 9000 miles away?
Try and explain to all of us how Israel was involved in the truck attacks on the Christmas markets in Germany (Magdeburg 2014, Berlin 2016). How about explaining Nice in 2016? What about London 2017? Barcelona 2017? How about Charlie Hebdo office and then the Jewish shops in Paris 2020? Was Israel involved there too? In the same way that the aforementioned attacks were perpetrated on Western values, this attack was perpetrated on Jews for merely being Jews not because of Israel. That is anti semitic in nature.
The problem is people who seem to excuse Israel's justified reaction to terror attacks on a terror base as the reason for Jihadi extremists to attack Jews. They do not need any additional reason to attack Jews. Nor Christians. Nor indeed any other faith, ethnicity or creed including their fellow Muslims who happen to either belong to a different branch or just happened to get in the way. Paraphrasing BN, this Muslim Brotherhood extremist ideology (with all of it's offshoots) is a cancer and it needs to be attacked and dismantled with resolve and determination...not the weak pathetic platitudes we have been seeing over the last couple of decades.
Freedom of speech comes with great responsibility. If I had a Ukrainian cousin killed in the war, would people excuse my firebombing a Russian orthodox church in London as an inevitable consequence and easily explained away? Have we seen any useful idiots here marching in the streets waving Russian flags and chanting "From Moscow to Lviv, the Russian empire again will live".
"Free Palestine", "Stop the War", "End the killing" is acceptable. "From the River", "Globalise the Intifada" and "Death to the IDF" is not. Statutory 2 year sentence. Repeat offence, 5 years etc. The global finance networks supporting the terrorism. Massive fines. Companies broken up. Guilty parties imprisoned mandatory 10 years+. Extremist leaders? Hunted down and terminated. If a country in which they are taking refuge refuses to cooperate, their borders are just deemed transparent anyway and sanctions put in place. Resolve. Strength. When there is no safe place to hide and potential attackers realise that their families will face deportation (if dual nationals), loss of state benefits and sale of all assets to fund terror victims, these things have a habit of resolving themselves. Otherwise, it is a matter of time before we are subjected to more frequent and deadly attacks around the world.
Local jewish communities, like the sacked members of the uk board of deputies attempt, need to condemn/dissociate themselves with the actions of Israeli state.
I heard both the chief rabbi's discussion today on radio 4 which did not mention such pragmatism, also interviews with uk jews who said we should not be blamed for that,
but don't have the insight to condemn it.
Why? Are WASPS in the UK condemning or apologising for DJT? Not in my name! What about Catholics from Ireland? Are they condemning Nicolas Maduro to prevent attacks from the UVF? What about Anglicans right here? Anyone of them had to condemn or apologise for the actions taken by GHWB in the first Gulf War to not be expected to field off attacks in the UK? Two countries 9000 miles apart. The only thing shared is a religion. If Jews in Australia are responsible for Israeli actions, then WASPS here are responsible for DJT and his policies.
And to be perfectly clear, this is not an attack on Muslims. For the record, I have yet to meet or work with a bad one in my personal life. This is an attack on extremism in all it's forms, whether Jihadis. Christian fundamentalists or Jewish extremists. And those who condone or excuse actions undertaken by these groups.
