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Poll: AmorOut - Who next?

AmorIn or AmorOut?

  • AmorIn

    Votes: 66 57.4%
  • AmorOut

    Votes: 49 42.6%

  • Total voters
    115
I do hope Ole comes back. It did become a bit stale towards his end but that was mainly because he was trying to change the team to play on the front foot which we just couldn't do with the players he had plus Ronaldo was a massive thorn in trying to implement that.

The team does look far more balanced now than what it was when Ole was there too. I am sure he would be able to get a tune out of the players and get them playing well and get top 5.
 
Reads like a lot of overblown stuff, club covering it's bum. Do any of the clubs billionaires have a stake in nytimes?

Where is Berrada? Hiding behind the sofa?
I dunno, I mean Wilcox is getting some pelters at the moment and rightly so. Berrada though, I wouldn't expect too much from him by way of public commentary.
 
I do hope Ole comes back. It did become a bit stale towards his end but that was mainly because he was trying to change the team to play on the front foot which we just couldn't do with the players he had plus Ronaldo was a massive thorn in trying to implement that.

The team does look far more balanced now than what it was when Ole was there too. I am sure he would be able to get a tune out of the players and get them playing well and get top 5.

Jesus wept... We're going full circle :D
 
I do hope Ole comes back. It did become a bit stale towards his end but that was mainly because he was trying to change the team to play on the front foot which we just couldn't do with the players he had plus Ronaldo was a massive thorn in trying to implement that.

The team does look far more balanced now than what it was when Ole was there too. I am sure he would be able to get a tune out of the players and get them playing well and get top 5.

#OleGunnarRuinjaer
 
Reads like a lot of overblown stuff, club covering it's bum. Do any of the clubs billionaires have a stake in nytimes?

Agreed, it reads like Utd briefing the press on the sly to heap the blame on Amorim to avoid scrutiny of the leadership
 
When Amorim had a few good results, Wilcox was straight out there doing interviews on MUTV. Radio silence the rest of the time. It stinks.

I don't trust him or Berrada. Not sure about Vivell. Ratcliffe shouldn't be interfering either, he seems pretty clueless.
 
The Wilcox thing was always a little odd, he seemingly did OK as academy director at City for a few years but how his trajectory then ended up being DoF at a Championship bound Southampton to Technical Director at Utd 9 months later is a little strange - he was evidently good at selling someone the dream
 
Anyone who thinks Amorim was the problem is part of the real problem. It's been the same old same old of poor backroom leadership and ownership decisions especially recruitment and players contracts since the day Fergie left. Nothing will change until the owners are changed.
 
Anyone who thinks Amorim was the problem is part of the real problem. It's been the same old same old of poor backroom leadership and ownership decisions especially recruitment and players contracts since the day Fergie left. Nothing will change until the owners are changed.
How many managers have been sacked mid season and then we've needed an interim, INEOS have made it two in two now.

Ragnick was right all along but they booted him out too.
 
How many managers have been sacked mid season and then we've needed an interim, INEOS have made it two in two now.

Ragnick was right all along but they booted him out too.
We could map out every move in manager since Fergie if we wanted to, and we would all see the same pattern. It's just rinse repeat. Yes Ragnick was the first to really loudly call it out for what it was. And nobody listened, they didn't like it that he told the truth to the wider world and he got moved on. Here we are with all the same problems he listed 4/5 years on. It's a joke and I'm personally numb to it at this point. But listening to the goons on radio talk shows etc just occasionally winds me back up again :D
 
How many managers have been sacked mid season and then we've needed an interim, INEOS have made it two in two now.

Ragnick was right all along but they booted him out too.
I don't think having an interim is such a terrible idea. If they knock it out the park maybe they're a consideration, otherwise you get to put the job advert out there for a good few months and give people a chance to make themselves available.
 
I don't think having an interim is such a terrible idea. If they knock it out the park maybe they're a consideration, otherwise you get to put the job advert out there for a good few months and give people a chance to make themselves available.
But then as soon as they struggle we boot them too, Ole etc. I appreciate that this is the modern way that clubs are run but at some point fingers do need to be pointed at the people making the decisions. Almost all.the fingers have been pointed at Amorim recently, some justified, a lot not justified imo.
 
I don't think having an interim is such a terrible idea. If they knock it out the park maybe they're a consideration, otherwise you get to put the job advert out there for a good few months and give people a chance to make themselves available.

Get Ruud back in? Help Sesko out
 
Anyone who thinks Amorim was the problem is part of the real problem. It's been the same old same old of poor backroom leadership and ownership decisions especially recruitment and players contracts since the day Fergie left. Nothing will change until the owners are changed.

Both things can be true. Amorim was unquestionably a problem, but he is just one problem of many.

The Glazers have been poor owners for a long time, but I do genuinely believe INEOS are more well-meaning, they've invested money and seem to want things to improve, but there appears to be some serious confusion around the football operation. In my view they've appointed an untested CEO in Berrada, and an untested football director in Wilcox. Both appointments look highly questionable at present.

We need a manager who is -
  • Highly pragmatic and adaptable, but with a focus on playing on the front foot
  • A master of manipulating the media, who are often out of control and need to be kept on-side
  • Has a real authority about him and is widely respected
  • Needs to be completely aligned with both Berrada and Wilcox, and they both need to tell Ratcliffe to **** off and stop interfering!
Aside from the attacking football, I think Southgate actually ticks a lot of boxes, but I appreciate it's not ideal in many ways either.

Scholes for example seems keen on Tuchel after the World Cup, ok yes, he's a good manager, but he is not particularly positive and he will 100% fall out with Ratcliffe & co after a year.

Iraola could make some sense, I know Bournemouth are struggling but they just constantly lose their best players. He wants to play attacking football and is used to operating in a system where he isn't necessarily in control of transfers entirely. On the flip side, he might end up wilting under the pressure here.

I feel Glasner is naturally more defensive and so far he hasn't managed a club of this size, or where the expectation is to win pretty much every game. I know that sounds silly after last season but that will always be the expectation here from fans and the media. Before Amorim I'd have taken Thomas Frank for example, but based on his time at Spurs, he'd be struggling here too.

Emery I feel wouldn't want to work under INEOS. Luis Enrique is probably the standout name but there's no indication he's leaving PSG. I think Maresca is better equipped than Amorim was, but it's a gamble.

It'll be very interesting to see what route they take.
 
The Glazers have been poor owners for a long time, but I do genuinely believe INEOS are more well-meaning, they've invested money and seem to want things to improve, but there appears to be some serious confusion around the football operation. In my view they've appointed an untested CEO in Berrada, and an untested football director in Wilcox. Both appointments look highly questionable at present.

It's amusing in a way. The Glasers just didn't seem to care which resulted in failures. Ineos seem to care and have the right intentions but seem to lack the ability to make good decisions.

I know football is different, and there are fine margins, but it's shocked me how every action they've taken has pretty much been a large failure. The whole cost saving on a micro scale is just looking more and more stupid when they're making massive blunders and costing 10's of millions at a time.
 
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