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Who wants to talk to me about aero bars? All three of my road bikes have traditional round bars but having got some Di2 satellite shifters cheap(ish) off eBay, I'm wondering about a bar change on my Synapse. The satellite shifters are SW-R9150, so one for the each side of the tops of the bar (rather than the version that has two buttons together). Semi-internal routing would be nice to tidy some of the cables. The rear brake hose and Di2 cable drop into the a single hole on the downtube. The Di2 junction box has a specific cut out in the downtube, rather than it being in the bars. I would like to figure out if I can get rid of the Di2 Y cable which hangs down under the bars but I'm not sure if I can do that without moving the junction box into the bar end.

Are aero bars comfy to ride on the flat part of the tops? I do use the tops when climbing, but looking at the state of my knackered bar tape, I spend a lot of time on the hoods or the curve of the bars.
 
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Aero bars can be comfortable (depending on the width I guess though) if you're in the really crouched position, so hands on the hoods, but your wrists or forearm reasting on the bars (might need to turn your hoods in a bit to make this really work). If it's not too windy I sometimes ride in a simulated TT position with my wrists on the flat bits of the bars (so hands are on nothing).
 
Cheers. Read a few reviews over lunch and I could go with a more traditional shape like the Pro PLT carbon although only a little bit of internal routing, so cable tidying options might be limited.


A big thumbs up for Deda. I e-mailed the info address on their website at 11:37 this morning with a question about semi-internal cable routing. At 12:14 I got a reply including pictures of the underside of the bars to show the holes. Makes a change from e-mails disappearing into a blackhole.
 
So I presume it’s not a good thing to find a crack on your (titanium!!) frame when you give it a wash?

And Enigma put a 10 year warranty on their frames…..and I bought it in 2015. Bugger!

I’m not sure how bad it is. It’s about half way down the seat tube. It’s only on one side, but if I flex the frame a bit, you can see the hairline crack getting a bit wider. So it is the frame (what else could it be…..)

Oh and the bearing in the rear wheel seems knackered too…..judging by the fact I can move it side to side by about 5mm too!

FFS !
 
I presume you mean the Look Keo style for Duo pedals? If so, yes, I have. How can I help? :D
Yes!
I was using the red cleats I got with the duo pedals but they have lasted about 500km and the grey inner part is coming out on the right which is the foot I use when I stop and making it very hard to clip in. On top of that I feel the 6 degree float is a bit much and foot has a bit of movement. Thinking of switching to the Look branded grey 4.5 degree. Have you tried them? They work ok?

Cheers :)
 
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I found a couple of potential bars from Ritchey at lunch. The carbon option at £200+ requires considerable man maths to justify but the alloy (WCS Streem) could be an option if I can figure how to get enough Di2 junctions in the bar to just drop a single cable externally down to the frame.


 
Yes!
I was using the red cleats I got with the duo pedals but they have lasted about 500km and the grey inner part is coming out on the right which is the foot I use when I stop and making it very hard to clip in. On top of that I feel the 6 degree float is a bit much and foot has a bit of movement. Thinking of switching to the Look branded grey 4.5 degree. Have you tried them? They work ok?

Cheers :)

I've only tried Look Keo Grip red cleats (other than the Assioma red cleats). I had an issue where I couldn't unclip with the Look cleats on my winter boots. The first time I put it down to mud on the cleat after rescuing a sheep stuck in a fence but it happened again on another ride. I swapped my boots back to Assioma cleats after that. However, I did have to buy some Look cleats when in France as one shoe kept accidentally unclipping. They were fine for many miles and it was only when I changed them I realised I'd been using one Look and Assioma cleat...

GP Lama did a video testing cleats which might be worth a look? At which point I realised the most recent comment on the video about unclipping issues is mine!

 
So I presume it’s not a good thing to find a crack on your (titanium!!) frame when you give it a wash?

And Enigma put a 10 year warranty on their frames…..and I bought it in 2015. Bugger!

I’m not sure how bad it is. It’s about half way down the seat tube. It’s only on one side, but if I flex the frame a bit, you can see the hairline crack getting a bit wider. So it is the frame (what else could it be…..)

Oh and the bearing in the rear wheel seems knackered too…..judging by the fact I can move it side to side by about 5mm too!

FFS !
That’s a shame! I suppose the good thing with metal is it can be repaired. The bad thing is titanium is very hard to work with.. id still contact enigma and see what they say.
 
How many times do you think you could get away with reusing a 11 speed shimano quick link? Going to give my chain a boil in some water and immersion wax as I've just been topping it up with the Silca drip on wax but I'd like to give it a full wax before I take it back out. Think I've only used this link the one time since getting this chain.
Should be good for 5-6 times at least, really depending on wear and how heavy handed you are with it. Basically as soon as it's 'easy' to clip back together the more danger there is of it coming undone by accident when you don't want it too... Quick links are a little weaker than chain links due to their nature but think I've only broken a few more than I have chain links through the years. Even then the number being small enough not to be concerned. I probably use mine 2-3 times but I'm not taking chains off to clean/wax them. I'll generally re-use a link unless it's filthy when I take the chain off.

I’ve been ill for a week too with some crazy flu that took me out, not been this unwell since my first taste of Covid.
I've just had it too, it's been working it's way through my office but my other half caught it 10 days ago and still not shaken it, typical it was just before half term so she's had a miserable one. I felt full of it thursday last week (didn't even Zwift!), took friday off work, slept most the day. Saturday pretty rubbish, bounced back sunday and yesterday. Feel pretty good today, thankfully mine stayed nasally and snot based without getting to my chest like the other half. Still sleeping a bunch more but 5-6 days should be through it as I rested & didn't try and ride through it!

I would like to figure out if I can get rid of the Di2 Y cable which hangs down under the bars but I'm not sure if I can do that without moving the junction box into the bar end.
You don't need to replace the Y cable with the junction box into the bar end to get more connections... The 4 way junction box is the easy solution and just put it/feed it into the bars wrapped in something to stop it rattling.

But check your Shifters, as they're DA they likely have spare ports on them, so you can plug the satellite shifters into each of the STI's without needing any extra junctions?

It's only really the 105 level STI's which don't have extra ports, most the others Ultegra & certainly DA have extra ports. My new 105 12s STI's have ports for shifters which are not junction ports as they're battery powered, but I think everything non-battery they're all junction ports. You can have any number of junctions in a Di2 setup 'everything just works'.

Couple of wiring ideas on here and I'm sure there's a page with others. I recall a page where he showed the alternatives to having the Y cable and still having an internal option to disconnect your bars...


Aero bars can be comfortable (depending on the width I guess though) if you're in the really crouched position, so hands on the hoods, but your wrists or forearm reasting on the bars (might need to turn your hoods in a bit to make this really work). If it's not too windy I sometimes ride in a simulated TT position with my wrists on the flat bits of the bars (so hands are on nothing).
I do these too, on my Tarmac a lot more as I have a more aero position rotated over the front more. I ride the tops or forearms on them with a couple of fingers on each shifter. I'm pretty aero there but also not flexible to ride the drops enough to spend a long time in them so it is more of a compromise... :D

I have changed from SPD to SPD-SL pedals for my indoor bike and will do the same for outdoors (spd shoes broke). I went with cheap pedals for the indoor trainer as weight doesn’t matter. Is there any difference between the 105 and ultegra version? Or is it just a slight weight saving?
Sorry wrote a longer reply and lost it. Slight weight saving, but most of the Shimano pedals are made from resin so it is marginal, the saving is generally from the spindles used which are usually still metal. The Ultegra ones even have a metal plate on them so might be slightly harder wearing. But yeah really not much to worry about, go with 105 to save some money.

I rode Look Keo 2 Max for ages, did get some Blade, but then cheap Classic pedals on the Turbo. Ended up gradually changing everything over to the Classic as I couldn't justify the price difference for a couple of grams. Maybe if the bearings where changeable/replaceable it would be worth investing in better pedals, but they're generally not. Barely even 100g difference for £40 more.
 
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I've just had it too, it's been working it's way through my office but my other half caught it 10 days ago and still not shaken it, typical it was just before half term so she's had a miserable one. I felt full of it thursday last week (didn't even Zwift!), took friday off work, slept most the day. Saturday pretty rubbish, bounced back sunday and yesterday. Feel pretty good today, thankfully mine stayed nasally and snot based without getting to my chest like the other half. Still sleeping a bunch more but 5-6 days should be through it as I rested & didn't try and ride through it!
this took me out quick.. funny enough my wife had it for 10 days or so too, before me, unwell no work etc.

I thought I got away with it but Monday last week I could feel it coming, tuesday was bad, wednesday same.. started feeling a bit more human on thrusday and back to work on Friday but spent the weekend at home just blowing snot and still feeling sorry for my self.

did a 20k on zwift today and felt out of breath so I think I did get a bit of a hit in my lungs too, not been sleeping well either since it. Will end up taking another week to recover, not a fan! least the sun is shinning today :)
 
Cheers @Roady. If I fit the satellite shifters, I need five Di2 connections up front. My shifters are Ultegra 8070, so two connections per shifter which means using either a Y cable or 4 way JC41 to get out and down to the A junction box in the downtube.
 
Good service from SRAM & Canyon, well on one of my dodgy batteries, which seem to have got too cold over Christmas and didn't want to hold a significant charge, fired off email to canyon, who within 2 hours said all approved by SRAM for a replacement, once we get it we'll send it on to you.

Have purchased one of the aftermarket larger capacity batteries by Bigrock as well to see what they're like, as I need something that I know isn't going to die on me for my winter CX racing, which I can't trust with the SRAM batteries based upon their performance over the last few months.

@Shadowness no harm dropping them a mail and see what they say once you get a diagnosis, might get a bit of goodwill from them.
 
"The Junglist is a warm blooded mammal who is rarely seen over the winter months, preferring instead the warm embrace and comfort of indoor cycling. When peer pressured sufficiently he will occasionally venture outside to test the waters but usually sense takes over and he quickly retreats into his burrow. Come spring however, he furtively comes forth to see the changes nature has wrought on the ever changing landscape and gives thanks for England green pastures and country lanes as he begins his years cycling in earnest"

Not enough DI2 references
 
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