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, a keyboard and a mouse, upgrade path, you can have look like what you want instead of what sony want, steam, a computer..Is this the glummest home computing has ever looked?
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, a keyboard and a mouse, upgrade path, you can have look like what you want instead of what sony want, steam, a computer..
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You can use keyboard and mouse on fps games on PS5. PS5 to PS5 Pro was the upgrade path, the next upgrade is PS6. The problem with PC is you spend more time installing drivers and fixing stutters than actually gaming. PS5 is just so easy to use and quick resume is amazing. PC is a thing of the past for gamingno great unwashed
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Higher resolution and frame rates.
Consoles definitely have a lot of appeal. I’ve gone from PC to PlayStation many times. The simplicity of a console is unmatched.
The draw of certain games not hitting PC like Yotei, Wolverine and god knows when GTA 6 will land is tempting me back to a pro. After an hour or so I do get used to the low frame rates.
I have to disagree with “spending more time installing drivers” than gaming.
My set up is pretty simple, no overclocking so don’t worry about stability issues, and new drivers aren’t needed that regularly, and when they are it takes seconds.
The only drivers I tend to bother with are chipset and NVIDIA drivers, things like ethernet, bluetooth etc aren’t updated that often, and I use hdmi for audio. I also often hold off updating gpu drivers straight away due to issues they’ve had at times. So most of the time I’m just booting the PC in big picture mode and playing.
A software update on a PS5 took longer at times than the time it takes to install NVIDIA drivers.
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The rug has been pulled out from under PC enthusiasts many a time where they thought they would be able to upgrade but end up having to buy a new motherboard, CPU and ram bundle. New standards come in over time. It's not as big an argument these days. The Modular nature of PCs is less relevant when the time between upgrades has been typically much longer as hardware improvements became highly incremental.
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It is all looking quite bad at the moment but unlike previous bad times I can't see an end to this for quite a few years. I had planned on buying a new system this year in the £2000-£2500 range but I decided to buy a second system instead to last me a few years. This can't be good for the likes of OcUK though if people turn to buying second hand systems.
But can it play Crysis?
only if you've had some serious bad luck, or are a walloper. usually it's the latter.
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Stuttering has been a major issue on pc for years. If you don’t have the reflexes to notice don’t blame others.
that doesn't make any sense.
For me? Access to some of my favourite most played games that simply aren't on console. Equally you don't need to spend £2000 extra on a PC to play them.
I'd never limit myself to one platform if finances allow.
And if it came to it, I'd choose PC gaming anytime over console even if it cost 30% more to build an equivalent machine (we're well on our way there). There's just no beating the gigantic variety of games over the past 20 years, and I own the largest number of games on PC by tenfold.
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Fair enough guys, that’s the great thing about having multiple platforms. Everyone can choose what suits them. For me PS5 Pro is perfect as I only play one game anyway.
I've never owned a console but building a PC using new components for the price of a basic PS5 +30% would be quiet a challenge, GT1030's are £70-£100 which is absurd, RTX 5050's around £150 the former isn't a gaming GPU and I think the latter would be pushed to match a PS5 even if you were building a 30FPS rig.
This isn't a dig at you just the cost of entry level gaming on PC, I'm speaking as someone that used to pick up old ex business PCs slap in a very under powered low profile gpu and use it for old games and Geforce Now.
Now the secondhand market is really messed up, people are selling obsolete junk as gaming PC's to inflate the price just by bypassing W11 installation requirements, sticking them in the cheapest gaming case they can find and fraudently selling them as W11 PC's all the secondhand places I look are flooded with similar scam listings.
I was looking at spending about £800 to throw a resonable entry level PC together but that was before everything went crazy and I'd probably need to add another £300+ to build that same PC now. I could pick up a new PS5 for under £450 but that doesn't let me play my steam games or the hundreds I've collected on Epic.
The PC market is not in a good place right now.
good thing we have the OCUK members market where prices aren't that crazy
there's a 5800x3d + 4070ti system that is under offer for £850
Outside of Nvidia graphics card prices and DRAM, things aren’t too bad. And even the DRAM issue is mostly confined to high capacity matched sets of RDRAM.
Intel Arc and AMD RDNA are very solid offerings and AM5 has a really nice range of parts. Monitors quality control seems to be improving and prices are dropping. NVME drives are bonkers fast and above gigabit networking is good value. Avoid all things RGB and 300 watt RTX cards, and things aren’t bad at all.
Intel Arc and AMD RDNA are very solid offerings and AM5 has a really nice range of parts. Monitors quality control seems to be improving and prices are dropping. NVME drives are bonkers fast and above gigabit networking is good value. Avoid all things RGB and 300 watt RTX cards, and things aren’t bad at all.
Have you seen the price of storage too, prices are silly no matter how you try twist this mess we are currently in. "Things aren't too bad" starting to wonder if people that say things like this are retailers or involved in the components business. Sorry no excuses for this mess, prices for DRAM, GPUs, SSDs,HDD, compact flash memory are all sky high, from 3x to 5x in some situations and still going up. Clearly you have not been buying pc components recently and seeing the huge price differences from retailers for the same parts.
I know I buy parts everyday, for myself and work. Prices are a total joke right now.
I don't understand people thinking this is all "OK", it's not. It's only ok when you don't have to buy stuff that's gone threw the roof prices.Anyways not in mood for such topics, and people playing it's all "ok" nothing to see here rubbish. Ohh just to let you know ASUS and CPU makers are raising prices again soon, Asus even gave a warning about it, go google it, more silly increases coming 30%+ they are stating.
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I'm glad I spent a couple of grand updating my system just before all this happened. Like my last system, I expect this will last me five years and hopefully by then, things will have settled down again.
Have you seen the price of storage too, prices are silly no matter how you try twist this mess we are currently in. "Things aren't too bad" starting to wonder if people that say things like this are retailers or involved in the components business. Sorry no excuses for this mess, prices for DRAM, GPUs, SSDs,HDD, compact flash memory are all sky high, from 3x to 5x in some situations and still going up. Clearly you have not been buying pc components recently and seeing the huge price differences from retailers for the same parts.
I know I buy parts everyday, for myself and work. Prices are a total joke right now.
Anyways not in mood for such topics, and people playing it's all "ok" nothing to see here rubbish. Ohh just to let you know ASUS and CPU makers are raising prices again soon, Asus even gave a warning about it, go google it, more silly increases coming 30%+ they are stating.
It’s not so much of an issue for typical desktop systems. A decent 1tb SSD isn’t that expensive at all and CPUs performance is great at the moment. Outside of RTX cards, RGB fans and white cases thing really aren’t as bad as some people make out.
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