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FSR 4.1 on RDNA 3 Benchmarks and comparison videos

RDNA 4 was more of a side grade over RDNA 3 performance wise the 7900xt and xtx were as fast if not faster then the 9070-9070xt in most games, so other than for FSR 4 was no real reason to upgrade.
And when I bought my 7900gre, it was just around 4-5 months before the RDNA 4 release and AMD was still still releasing new CPU's for AM4 so i foolishly thought they are still supporting AM4 so RDNA 3 would still get any new FSR updates... Guess that was me just being naive :D lol

Radeon division and AMD CPU division may as well two seperate companies, one wants to support longevity as much as possible, the other wants you to buy a new GPU to get features even if it's to the detriment of their market share, branding, customer loyalty and performance and image quality against Nvidiab
 
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Good points! Can't help wondering if a 9080xt would have increased their market share though.
Oh it probably would have done, as it'd likely have met or beaten the 5080 quite convincingly (given a 9070XT can sometimes get close), and at a lower price BUT we know that in hindsight. Ahead of release however, we were definately expecting more of the 50 series, and were also expecting the Super variants to be landing nowish.

I don't blame AMD for stopping where they did, because it was consistent with what they said previously that they wanted to do: Capture more of the mainstream-high end, rather than the enthusiast class this time around and get some volume; just in hindsight we now know Nvidia didn't deliver as everyone expected and there was a wider open goal than AMD expected to be there. Fundamentally though that probably allowed them to capture more of the market with the 9070XT than they had initially expected...so...win some lose some; just we as enthusiasts will always wish they pushed the larger, hungrier card.

Also bear in mind they deliberately targeted the power caps they did on the 9070/9070XT, probably because they believed OEMs would be more likely to accept the design pulling approximately 300-330W (RTX 3080 power levels) than a larger design pulling 450-500W, but maybe getting closer to the 4090/5090; and fundamentally OEM sales are more important than the smaller enthusiast/gamer direct purchase sector; so there were probably a LOT of weights, design and target market decisions (plus silicon concerns) going into them not putting out the higher card this time around, rather than anything more simplistic, or they'd have done that larger, faster card like normal.
 
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I don't blame AMD for stopping where they did, because it was consistent with what they said previously that they wanted to do: Capture more of the mainstream-high end, rather than the enthusiast class this time around and get some volume; just in hindsight we now know Nvidia didn't deliver as everyone expected
They're certainly still selling well, which is great to see. Certainly capturing that mainstream market.

GPU sales stats for June 2026 at Mindfactory​

GPUUnits soldMarket share
RX 9070 XT1,82526.62%
RX 9060 XT1,26018.38%
RTX 5060 Ti 8GB84512.33%
RTX 508075010.94%
RTX 5070 Ti72510.58%
 
They're certainly still selling well, which is great to see. Certainly capturing that mainstream market.

GPU sales stats for June 2026 at Mindfactory​

GPUUnits soldMarket share
RX 9070 XT1,82526.62%
RX 9060 XT1,26018.38%
RTX 5060 Ti 8GB84512.33%
RTX 508075010.94%
RTX 5070 Ti72510.58%

Maybe AMD are breaking out from under Nvidia's shadow...
 
I don't blame AMD for stopping where they did, because it was consistent with what they said previously that they wanted to do: Capture more of the mainstream-high end, rather than the enthusiast class this time around and get some volume;

The steam hardware survey is starting to reflect that.
 
And ultimately, given the reputation they and thier drivers have had for years, that is for the best.

The only way they will win wider marketshare is getting cards into customers hands, and giving them a good experience. If those people are the community 'tech support', be it the friend, family member or colleague, then they will also likely be involved in informing or guiding future purchases of a wider group of people, and if that message is 'these guys give a much better experience than I expected, they were WAY better than the Nvidia card I could have got for the money', then that is a much bigger win than the purchase numbers would suggest, given just how strong Nvidia's mindshare has traditionally been. It takes wider moves to get the cards into the hands of the average user market where Nvidia have traditionally dominated, rather than the enthusiast one where things have been more nuanced.

Good price/performance only helps the case, and given that was the target this time around, and everything else going on, at the time these decisions were made, not making a 9080XT and focusing on the mid-high end market made far more sense, even if we are in a wierd place right now.
 
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Yeah, out of the top 100 the 9070 XT sits at 25, i think that's higher than AMD have been in at least 10 years.

3080 sits at 24, 5070 Ti at 16.

That's a pretty decent result. I also noticed a bit of an attitude change generally, both my kids have a 7700xt and a 7900gre and they no longer feel like the poor kids because they don't have Nvidia. My youngest started cyberpunk and was blown away with all the settings turned up with fsr 4.
 
DIY market is tiny. AMD need to get there graphics chips onto laptops.

It is honestly baffling why we haven't seen the 9060/906XT tier products in the laptop market. Their power requirement would give 5060(M)/5070(M) performance easily (better binned 9060XT running at say 120w would perform pretty close to the desktop part just like the 5060 laptop vs 5060 desktop) and could offer 16GB VRAM to boot (pre RAM cahoots of course).

Heck even a 9070 could have probably been squeezed into the high end laptop space given it "only" uses ~200-220w under load as a desktop card. Laptops are capable of cooling upwards of 175w TGP (5080/5090 laptop parts) so its possible from that angle. Just lacking the actual GPU to do so...


AMD have really dropped the ball when it comes to design wins in the "gaming" laptop space. Maybe this was a conscious decision (not enough profit forecasted) or maybe they just couldn't get the products to "fit" who knows.
 
Nearly a year AMD kept RNDA 2/3 users in the dark and continued to do so even after the INT8 leak had shown that FSR4 was possible. This has further soured their reputation as resentment grew as one only has to step outside the OCUK bubble to see posts saying they would never buy AMD again and/or are selling their cards

After a couple of interviews even when directly asked again AMD kept people in the dark with non committal answers until it was officially announced and people speculate that the many reasons why this has happened was due to the growing backlash and the problems this would cause for any current and future device that used RDNA 2/3.

There's already rumours going around that RNDA5/UDNA is exclusive to the next generation of GPU's and AMD have somewhat shown that there's a lack of trust from people whom dont blindly accept AMD can do no wrong for AMD to support older hardware so unless AMD commit this will be an issue for RDNA 4/3/2 owners.
 
Nearly a year AMD kept RNDA 2/3 users in the dark and continued to do so even after the INT8 leak had shown that FSR4 was possible. This has further soured their reputation as resentment grew as one only has to step outside the OCUK bubble to see posts saying they would never buy AMD again and/or are selling their cards

After a couple of interviews even when directly asked again AMD kept people in the dark with non committal answers until it was officially announced and people speculate that the many reasons why this has happened was due to the growing backlash and the problems this would cause for any current and future device that used RDNA 2/3.

There's already rumours going around that RNDA5/UDNA is exclusive to the next generation of GPU's and AMD have somewhat shown that there's a lack of trust from people whom dont blindly accept AMD can do no wrong for AMD to support older hardware so unless AMD commit this will be an issue for RDNA 4/3/2 owners.

The idea that AMD "kept RDNA 2/3 users in the dark for nearly a year" assumes that companies are obligated to publicly confirm or deny every rumour, leak, or speculative feature. In reality, AMD, just like NVIDIA, and every other hardware vendor, only communicates features once they’re ready to commit to them. Important for you to understand this - silence isn’t deception; it’s standard industry practice.

The INT8 capability leak showed potential compatibility, not a finished, validated, production‑ready implementation. Even if RDNA 2/3 could run it, AMD would still need to confirm performance, stability, and image quality before making any promises. Announcing early and then walking it back would have caused far more backlash. When AMD gave vague answers in interviews, that wasn’t "keeping people in the dark." It was simply not pre‑announcing something that wasn’t ready. GPU feature pipelines are locked in long before public announcement. I believe NVIDIA did the same with DLSS 3 frame generation on older cards.

And no, outside of certain forum bubbles, most RDNA 2/3 owners weren’t selling their cards or swearing off AMD. Steam hardware surveys, and retail sales trends don’t show any mass exodus. The argument that AMD only announced support "because of backlash" is speculation. A more likely, grounded, explanation is that FSR4 reached a stable performance baseline and driver integration was completed. Companies don’t redesign feature roadmaps because of a few heated forum threads.

Also, this idea that AMD "won’t support older hardware" is based on unverified leaks and speculation. You said it yourself. Rumours. Until AMD publishes the support matrix then claiming "AMD won’t support older hardware" is pure speculation.
 
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What have I done.. :cry: :cry: :cry: It's really not that deep as I was relaying what some RNDA 2/3 users where posting and experiencing regarding the FSR4 situation as time went on contary to what was being posted in this thread.
 
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Nearly a year AMD kept RNDA 2/3 users in the dark and continued to do so even after the INT8 leak had shown that FSR4 was possible. This has further soured their reputation as resentment grew as one only has to step outside the OCUK bubble to see posts saying they would never buy AMD again and/or are selling their cards

After a couple of interviews even when directly asked again AMD kept people in the dark with non committal answers until it was officially announced and people speculate that the many reasons why this has happened was due to the growing backlash and the problems this would cause for any current and future device that used RDNA 2/3.

There's already rumours going around that RNDA5/UDNA is exclusive to the next generation of GPU's and AMD have somewhat shown that there's a lack of trust from people whom dont blindly accept AMD can do no wrong for AMD to support older hardware so unless AMD commit this will be an issue for RDNA 4/3/2 owners.
I saw those rumours on the message board/forums and it made me sick that my 1 year old 9070XT would have the same treatment as RDNA3 owners but since they back ported FSR4, it’s given me hope for some longevity in my gpu.
 
I saw those rumours on the message board/forums and it made me sick that my 1 year old 9070XT would have the same treatment as RDNA3 owners but since they back ported FSR4, it’s given me hope for some longevity in my gpu.
You shouldn't even be worrying about that, but that's the consequence of yet another AMD own goal back when they said they weren't supporting RDNA 3 cards anymore, before then backtracking on that after the logical furore that ensued.

The PR department at AMD needs firing.
 
What have I done.. :cry: :cry: :cry: It's really not that deep as I was relaying what some RNDA 2/3 users where posting and experiencing regarding the FSR4 situation as time went on contary to what was being posted in this thread. If people want to believe the that the only people upset over FSR4 where clickbait Youtubers and nv kids then carry on. ;)
Except I never said or remotely implied the only people upset over FSR4 were clickbait Youtubers and nv kids(your words), and just like that, you've just indivertibly confirmed and further enforced my original sentiment=sending a virtual gold star your way mate.:p
 
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