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They mentioned the C-HR+ which is the full EV.
I like the look of the model, personally. Not driven one or even seen one in the flesh. I thought they were doing a 300hp version I don't think it's available in the UK. 10 year warranty as Toyota offers should be standard with all new EV's in my opinion.
The CHR+ is available here, seen one a couple of weeks back and wondered what it was.
 
Sorry, totally misread though you said iX3-50. Those iX's are mahoooooosive. Not sure what you've paid/committed to, but unless it was closer to £30k than £40-42 I still reckon it has a good way to fall even in just 12-18 months. Bit of a difference from an A4 though.

I keep my cars for a long time (unlike my computers) so depreciation levels out over say 8+ years. iX50 are holding firm around 40s for this age and spec, especially approved used. I was drawn the to 50 due to the 111.5kWh battery.
 
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Yes, did mean the C-HR+ which is full EV. Wasn’t sure how new they were as I don’t recall seeing many on the roads - not that I’m looking out for them.
 
They mentioned the C-HR+ which is the full EV.
I like the look of the model, personally. Not driven one or even seen one in the flesh yet but will pop into my local dealer soon to take a look. I thought they were doing a 300hp version but I don't think it's available in the UK, at least yet. 10 year warranty as Toyota offers should be standard with all new EV's in my opinion.
Oh jeez just seen that. How confusing lol
 
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3 is the best long term fail safe solution. Any competent installer should know how to achieve this with your install, if they don’t, bin them.

So ideally I’d have the battery blind to the EV charger but still have the solar able to feed the EV if I wanted.
 
So ideally I’d have the battery blind to the EV charger but still have the solar able to feed the EV if I wanted.
Yes, because the charger will have its own CT clamp which you can place next to the meter, and it will see import/export for the whole installation. It's 'smart fuse' function also works off the same CT clamp (dials back the charger if the load is approaching the capacity of the main cutout fuse).

Installers will either use a cable with a built in CAT5e for the CT clamps or a separate CAT5e and a normal cable. The former is more expensive that the latter.
 
Dacia Spring 100 was delivered 30th June, we've had about 10 days with it as it didn't have a charger. Honestly its a great little car that you can have a little fun in time to time. It does it's city driving, popping to the shops, and general run about duties perfectly. Yes the door feels cheap, its small (but still comfortable enough as a 6ft slightly tubby guy) and won't win any presence awards or be a speed demon. But at 12k new it doesn't need to do any of those things, its just needs to perform as a city run about.

I've also done a fairly meaty trip in it due to misfortune with the wife and her key placement.. last weekend I ended up traveling 136 miles to Newcastle on the Thursday, 136 miles back on Friday, then 272miles round trip on Sat to drop of the keys to our other car which she left in the Spring and needed to drive the kids and herself home on Sunday. Needless to say I wasn't happy about the ordeal but the car and its relatively short range wasn't really an issue. Fast charger stop while I grabbed dinner, one more stop on the way back at a supercharger for 30p/kwh and it was fine. Still ended up costing half as much as petrol would have done and I used fast charging almost for all of those miles.
 
The average persons daily mileage is apparently <40 miles, which the majority of EVs can do these days. If you need to do long trips on short notice, then EVs aren't the tech for you. Nothing wrong with that but I'd say that's more of an outlier than the norm for most people. Saying all EVs are bad and never going to work because of an outlier isn't a correct or fair assessment in my opinion, which is quite common when people complain about EVs. Although allegedly a Tesla long range will do 380 miles real world, one fast charge (assuming you can find one) and 500+ would technically be possible. Not that I'd ever buy a Tesla though.

I personally don't believe they're ready for long trips yet and the only charging points I would consider acceptable are at home or in the office. Anything else is like a motorway petrol station, best to be avoided where possible. There needs to be a major step up in battery tech for long distance and infrastructure to become realistic. I believe an EV's purpose is your run of the mill city driving. Like how a ferrari is best on a racetrack, a transit van for carrying bulky/heavy loads, one of those nasty crossovers if you got kids, etc.

Dacia Spring 100 was delivered 30th June, we've had about 10 days with it as it didn't have a charger. Honestly its a great little car that you can have a little fun in time to time. It does it's city driving, popping to the shops, and general run about duties perfectly. Yes the door feels cheap, its small (but still comfortable enough as a 6ft slightly tubby guy) and won't win any presence awards or be a speed demon. But at 12k new it doesn't need to do any of those things, its just needs to perform as a city run about.

I've also done a fairly meaty trip in it due to misfortune with the wife and her key placement.. last weekend I ended up traveling 136 miles to Newcastle on the Thursday, 136 miles back on Friday, then 272miles round trip on Sat to drop of the keys to our other car which she left in the Spring and needed to drive the kids and herself home on Sunday. Needless to say I wasn't happy about the ordeal but the car and its relatively short range wasn't really an issue. Fast charger stop while I grabbed dinner, one more stop on the way back at a supercharger for 30p/kwh and it was fine. Still ended up costing half as much as petrol would have done and I used fast charging almost for all of those miles.

#justsayin'
 
Meanwhile my car is currently at Gatwick airport with 61% charge a projected range of 263 miles.
I don't think anyone is saying that a Dacia Spring is the ideal machine for that sort of trip but it shows that it's not that much of a trauma to do so if the need arises.

Better to have the odd inconvenient trip once or twice a year and have the right car for the job the rest of the time IMO. If all you need for the most part is a city car then £12k with tiny running costs can't be sniffed at!

I wouldn't have a 45 but the 100 is plenty quick enough for whatever you might need it to do.
 
Yeah, I was supporting the fact that most EVs can do long trips, and there are in fact many that can do really long trips, as @Hatake said they aren't ready for long trips yet, which is absolute nonsense.
 
Anyone have any experiences with the Toyota C-HR+?

The misses wants to look at some alternatives to the Model Y, and she likes Toyotas. I'd also like to check out the Renault Scenic too.

BMW/Volvo look nice too, but they seem to be much more expensive, when you add some of the toys you'd actually want.
A colleague picked his up 2 weeks ago, I think it looks quite nice from the outside, and the interior is OK, quite EV like.

He's got the Excel trim, which is the larger battery and 22kw AC charging which was have in work, so that worked out well for him.

It needs the pan roof though, it's quite dark/oppressive in the cabin, and there is the typical Toyota lots of hard black plastics everywhere, and the rear floor is weirdly high and leaves adults with less support as you feel like you knees are too high.

It's more EV3/Elroq sized (The boot isn't huge!) and feels quite a bit away from a Model Y, but I assume you have a Model Y now and looking to downsize and get in something very conventional? in which case, go and do a tour of the showrooms, there are a raft of run of the mill EVs and if the 10 year warranty appeals (it would to me), the C-HR+ seems perfectly OK.
 
His looking to buy a Y but considering alternatives.

The CHR will fell ‘low rent’ compared to the Y that’s for sure but it’s a completely different price bracket so that’s expected.
 
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I think what everyone is forgetting about the downside of owning an EV is the disappointment when you go to check your Nectar card balance that you use for the Xmas shop and it's only a fraction of what it was when you had a petrol/Diesel and you're going to have to pay cash instead..... :p :D
 
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