EV general discussion

[cuke2u]

The article mention "your life". Nobody gives a damn about your life. It's just data. I'll change my mind when I read stories along the lines of "my tesla recorded me kerb crawling and sent the footage to my wife" .
It's not spying, it's data capture for the probable use of improving services and systems.

Yeah some get a little worked up about it, but really it's been going on for years.

 

[tom_e]

Let's face it if you own a smart phone then your car being able to gather your data is the least of your worries.

 

[m4rmite]

Byd - following in the footsteps of Toyota, chevrolet, Nissan etc....
They've had good teachers i guess.

 

[Demon]

Ironically, Tesla are very open about most of the data and have provided secure APIs for a long time, I run Teslamate which means I've logged pretty much everything possible since having it delivered..

VW as an example refused to give you access to anything until the EU Data Act forced them and even that is half assed and as obtuse as possible..

 

[WoZZeR]

I have a question as a novice EV user:

Couple of weeks ago bought a used (11,700 mile) Honda E, using public chargers and/or the granny lead it seemed to charge fully but gave a range of 97 or so miles. We had a Ohme charger installed last week and both charges we have done have read increasingly higher mileage expectations, first charge 115 miles and now still charging (97%) 124 miles.

So is this the charger, the battery getting a new lease of life or is the indicated range based on my sedentary driving style?

 

[tamzzy]

indicated range based on my sedentary driving style?

this

 

[tamzzy]

So is this the charger, the battery getting a new lease of life

seeing as you just bought the car, it's also worth to recalibrate the battery management system
run the battery down to 3-5%, then do a one-off charge to 100% and keep it plugged in for a few hours so the BMS can calibrate all the cells
would then do a long trip and get the battery to < 80% so you don't un-necessarily put additional strain and wear by keeping the battery at a high charge for any longer than required

 

[tamzzy]

can you see where i did my BMS recalibration

 

[WoZZeR]

Thanks for the reply, I'll try that out, it will be quite easy to get down to 3-5%! It may help the Ohme and the car have the same readings too!

 

[tamzzy]

Thanks for the reply, I'll try that out, it will be quite easy to get down to 3-5%! It may help the Ohme and the car have the same readings too!

also just to note that the Honda e uses NCM batteries, so you should keep to the 20-80% rule
(avoid charging above 80% and avoid discharging to less than 20% regularly, unless either are specifically required)

obvs it means the range is only about half the actual quoted max range, but if you're just doing daily "normal" commutes and charging it daily/alternate days, then this shouldn't be too much of a problem

 

[WoZZeR]

Thanks for the help. That is worthwhile knowing, the range is not a problem, work is a few minutes away, our average journey is probably less than 10 miles. So a couple of top ups a week should do it, it can be set to a maximum charge level of 80% in the car.

It was a heart over head purchase! We have a couple of other Hondas for more serious journeys.

 

[thewanted]

Decided this past weekend that my 2025 Model 3 Long Range Premium AWD is too much car for my needs, since I only drive it to the station and back twice a week (40 mile roundtrip) and our main bathroom really needs a big refresh. It’s going up for sale next week and it looks like I might not lose any money on it because prices have held strong since I bought it in Feb.

Thinking about which EV to replace it with. So far on the shortlist I have the Kia e-Niro, ID.3 and the original Hyundai IONIQ. I’ve always had a soft spot for the ID.3 and even ordered a new one back in 2020 but ended up cancelling since it wasn’t big enough to use as the main family car.

Trying not to spend much more than £13000. Happy to hear any suggestions but I need something with as much interior space as the ones I listed above, so no Minis Or Honda E.

 

[tamzzy]

ID.3

i'd get the cupra born over the id3 (same chassis i know)

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Born as above or Megane e-tech which is a slightly under rated option (IMO)

 

[NeoVo]

Test drove a 25 plate MG4 xpower today at a local dealer; which is a car i have had my eyes on for a while.
As a 430bhp dual motor AWD hatchback sized vehicle, and a great spec trim as standard; was pleasantly impressed!

Very quick in a straight line, and didn't test sport mode or launch control.

Making temperature controls and other basic functions fully touch orientated and hidden behind menus with no physical switch option should be banned.

Will likely keep my eyes peeled and revisit once i've moved house and had the home charger installed.

 

[Rroff]

Let's face it if you own a smart phone then your car being able to gather your data is the least of your worries.

You can control a lot, if not all if you really care, of what data your smart phone can send back, cars generally you are a lot more limited in ability to control what they are doing in that respect. Though we should have much more robust controls on this in general - things seem to be sliding in a concerning direction and broadly people are far too naive and/or complacent to care - even what should be complete no-nos like periodically sending screenshots to remote servers on some TVs has had only moderate kick back.

 

[m4rmite]

Test drove a 25 plate MG4 xpower today at a local dealer; which is a car i have had my eyes on for a while.
As a 430bhp dual motor AWD hatchback sized vehicle, and a great spec trim as standard; was pleasantly impressed!

Very quick in a straight line, and didn't test sport mode or launch control.

Making temperature controls and other basic functions fully touch orientated and hidden behind menus with no physical switch option should be banned.

Will likely keep my eyes peeled and revisit once i've moved house and had the home charger installed.

Make sure if you get one, that it doesn't vibrate between 65-75mph. It's a well known issue.

 

[thewanted]

i'd get the cupra born over the id3 (same chassis i know)

I need to do more research, but I thought the Born was a bit more expensive.

Born as above or Megane e-tech which is a slightly under rated option (IMO)

Thanks, looks like a good option! They've depreciated quite badly which is good for me. You can get a 2023 model for just over £13k.

 

[ChrisD.]

You can control a lot, if not all if you really care, of what data your smart phone can send back, cars generally you are a lot more limited in ability to control what they are doing in that respect. Though we should have much more robust controls on this in general - things seem to be sliding in a concerning direction and broadly people are far too naive and/or complacent to care - even what should be complete no-nos like periodically sending screenshots to remote servers on some TVs has had only moderate kick back.

Exactly this, we really need a law where data collection is opt in and not opt out. Same as cookies, off by default, you have to opt in.

 

[DarrenM343]

I have a question as a novice EV user:

Couple of weeks ago bought a used (11,700 mile) Honda E, using public chargers and/or the granny lead it seemed to charge fully but gave a range of 97 or so miles. We had a Ohme charger installed last week and both charges we have done have read increasingly higher mileage expectations, first charge 115 miles and now still charging (97%) 124 miles.

So is this the charger, the battery getting a new lease of life or is the indicated range based on my sedentary driving style?

Better quality electricity at home via Ohme. It's the equivalent of Super Unleaded.
Someone will believe that I'm sure
The car adapting to your driving style probably.