Yet more dragonflies (sorry)

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More Dragonflies.. I know, im sorry. They'll dissapear eventually. Anyway, can anyone help me with the id of number 3 and 4(both the same creature) please.

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I am getting sick of these!!! :p

Another great set of shots. :) No idea what brand of dragonfly they are though, sorry.

* Must buy Macro lens.

TrUz
 
I saw my first dragonfly of the year whilst I was at work on Friday. I aint ever seen one in my town. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Its the one thing thats stopping me spend 300quid on a DSLR, just can't think of anywhere to find an interesting subject/enviroment!
 
Its the one thing thats stopping me spend 300quid on a DSLR, just can't think of anywhere to find an interesting subject/enviroment!


In Liverpool?

You clearly have no imagination, you have LOADS of architectural stuff in 'pool, you're close to Chester, you have Chester zoo, Knowsley safari park, the canal in Chester, you've got liverpool docks, a wealth of stuff worthy of £300 on a digital camera, as for stuff like dragonflies and other creepy crawlys, they don't just jump out at you, you have to find them.
 
Hey MK, never be sorry about posting dragonfly pics ... I never tire of looking at them :)

Keep'em coming sir !
 
you don't need SLR to capture interesting subject/environment. :confused:

No I dont need one but I'd love to get one for moving into photography more :)

In Liverpool?

You clearly have no imagination, you have LOADS of architectural stuff in 'pool, you're close to Chester, you have Chester zoo, Knowsley safari park, the canal in Chester, you've got liverpool docks, a wealth of stuff worthy of £300 on a digital camera, as for stuff like dragonflies and other creepy crawlys, they don't just jump out at you, you have to find them.

Architectural stuff yeah theres plenty of it, but I am miles away from Chester and Knowsley which is a pain! Might wait until I get back to uni so I have Yorkshire to explore!
 
I saw my first dragonfly of the year whilst I was at work on Friday. I aint ever seen one in my town. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

You used to see them in fields everywhere in Wrexham about 10 years ago. Sadly most fields have gone, and have new housing estates instead, or golf courses :(

The most I can find around here to take photos of with a macro lens, would be ants or the odd ladybug. It's a bit boring really!

I suppose I could do some macro shots of bricks :D
 
Great shots :)
I had an identical dragon as in photo 3 & 4 land in my garden last year and it was quite a surprise; not sure what they are though.
 
Where do people go to get shots of all these creatures?

The most I can find is a slug, or the odd ladybird or bee in the garden. :D

Im fortunate to have a good garden with two small ponds in that attracts a lot of wildlife, but most of my shots are taken on various wildlife reserves. Im slowly trying to work my way around all the Durham Wildlife Trust reserves. You'd be suprised as to where you can find some hidden gems. Ive discovered wildlife ponds teaming with wildlife in the middle of industrial estates. So if you do want to take wildlife shots, then get onto your locl wildlife trust to get more information. You might be suprised as to how many places are around.

Its the one thing thats stopping me spend 300quid on a DSLR, just can't think of anywhere to find an interesting subject/enviroment!

There are interesting subjects EVERYWHERE, so thats no excuse. Being in a city, yes you might not have as much direct access to wildlife as I have, but you will still be surrounded in photo opportunities. You have to adapt and use the resources that are available to you. The trick is not to go miles in search of something you don't have easy access to, but instead the trick is to relearn how to see. Often you can't see photo opportunities around you, as you take your local scenery and environment for granted as you see it everyday. You have to learn to look at everything with new eyes, and to see beauty in everday things.

You used to see them in fields everywhere in Wrexham about 10 years ago. Sadly most fields have gone, and have new housing estates instead, or golf courses :(

The most I can find around here to take photos of with a macro lens, would be ants or the odd ladybug. It's a bit boring really!

I suppose I could do some macro shots of bricks :D

Ants and Ladybirds arn't boring. Some of my best shots have come from ladybirds. As in my above replies, there are plenty of things to take pictures of wherever you are, you just have to learn how to see them. I also bet you there will be a pond (However small) with 5 miles of where you live that will contain damsel and dragonflies. You just have to go out and find it. Remember its very rarely that photography opportunites will come to you. you have to go out and seek them, which is often half the fun.

:)
 
If I ever see anotehr dragonfly shot....lol Good stuff though.
I think you've nailed them now, so, go and get some practice on other things! lol

Hehe, I know. What do shoot next though. Im not sure what im going to shoot as winter closes in and the insects hide. Suspect there might be quite a few birds shots, and other general wildlife.
 
have you got to be quick with a photo like this? and how do you get so close? is it because of the lens? i can never seem to get close to dragon flies because they get spooked if you edge in too close. :( there was one sat on the lilly flower in our pond yesterday, but they're very quick! lovely photo's by the way.
 
have you got to be quick with a photo like this? and how do you get so close? is it because of the lens? i can never seem to get close to dragon flies because they get spooked if you edge in too close. :( there was one sat on the lilly flower in our pond yesterday, but they're very quick! lovely photo's by the way.

Thank you. I posted a fairly big post about the art of 'bughunting' in another older thread, so I hope you don't mind, but im just going to qute it to save me typing it again;

Right, the art of 'bug safari'. :D The main things is persistance. For every insect you get a good shot of, expect to have missed loads of others. So try, and try again. Also, try to keep stalking the same insect for a while. Often they fly off, then land in the same place or very nearby. So wait a while if it flies off. Also if you stalk one for a while, sometimes they seem to get used to you and become more tame.

The following tips will vary from species to species, but most are generally usefull; When aproaching an insect, move slowly and controlled. With that I mean know where each footstep is going to be and how its going to effect plants, grases etc. All too often, ive got really close only to stand on a bit of grass that knocks into the insect.

Approach the insect from the direction you intend to shoot. Its much easier getting side on to the insect from several meeters away than trying to move around it a few inches away. I also try and avoid approaching insects (and wildlife in general) head on. You'd be amazed at how good the eyesight is on some of these little critters, so try and get them from a blindspot (although this can often be hard when they have eyes on the sides of their heads).

Try and approach and insect as low down as possible. If you can get under their eyelevel then they will perceive you as less of a threat. This probably comes from the fact that things like birds always attack from above.

When shooting, I always hold my breath. This is for two reasons. First is to keep the camera more stable, the second is that some insects detect prey/quarry by carbon dioxide (mosquitoes spring to mind). When you do have to take a breath, try and do it away from the insect.

Watch the insect as you slowly approach it. Sometimes you can see when they are starting to get spooked, so just stop a moment and let them settle again before creeping closer.

And finally (although im sure i'll think of more later on) the cooler it is, the more lethargic insects are. As they are cold blooded (or fluided, lol) they need the sun to warm them up, so early in the morning tends to be a good time to get closer.


As for the technical side; I really don't like going over 400 ISO as noise really kills sharpness and detail at anything over that. F7 is good going though. Mine tends to hover under 5.6 depending on the light, but if you can get it this high then go for it. Im always looking at maximising the dof, so the higher the better. One trick is to get at rightangles to the insect (like you have in shot 2) as this will make best use of the dof that you do have. A flash certainly will help. Ive not got one or used one, but I certainly can see me using one in the future. Having said that, the flash will need to be used carefully as it can make the scene look bad, with stark shadows or make the scene look flat. So ideally diffuse the flash and try and put it off centre (via a flash bracket). But the main key to getting a sharp image, is to get the focus right. Even with a perfectly still hand and subject, its so hard to get the focus spot on. My trick is simply to take lots of shots. I know a large amount of them will be out of focus, but if I get at least 1 spot on one, then who cares. I shoot digital, so the extra shots don't cost me anything (Until the shutter goes anyway). Oh, and one final point; Always respect your subject and its habitat. Try and leave as little an impression on the environment as possible, and if an insect has behaved itself and sat still for ages.. thank it. :D Hope that helps.

If you want any of that expanding on, or I have missed something then please say. :)
 
Well done again Messiah ;)

again such brilliant photography. and image processing.
still dont know how u get so close to those without them flying away.

but again well done, ill make sure i have alook through your deviant account again and add some to fav.

only thing id say, is the white border can be distracting sometimes, i use it, but i try not to make it to big.

just wonder what yours would look without them. or maybe very thin one.
 
With dragonflies I've actaully found if you just sit down near where they are active they get quite curious and come and land near you. If your willing to sit and wait it often pays off :)
 
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