Life just took a divebomb - 8 Years down the pan.

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Enough of this Alpha/Beta male rubbish. I don't believe in pretending to be fine, I believe in honesty. It is not as if I have curled up, quit work and gone into depression.. The old David a few years ago would have, I've since learnt a lot and become more of an adult.

It is not as if I am taking her back. We are trying to be adults. We are exchanging emails, she is paying her half of the rent. We've seen each other twice since and she has told me everything she can, to my face.. It's one thing lying in an email, another lying to ones face about such things.

I have not spoken to the guy since Sunday, he wanted to speak to me after refusing to see her when she wanted to tell him the truth, he realised it was not as it seemed and is too ****** up to see her. She has since seen him to get some of her possessions she had stored at his so she can use her PC where she is currently staying.

We've both been in really dark places throughout our relationship but always supported each other. I would not be who I am now if it weren't for her, I would not have gone to college, uni or got this job. I am not saying this excuses her behaviour but she is in a bad place. I would not like to make assumptions at this stage or cause any more pain after what we had, and she is in agreement, hence being apart but still in contact.

I do not buy the reasons she may have for lying as she has told me stuff that she knows would hurt me but still told me. Her friends also know the full story. She knows she has had a problem with lying but never knew why she did it so is now trying to be honest with everyone as it's the only way she is going to get through this. I know I have mentioned her mental health before but I truly think this is one part of this which complicates the situation and makes it different to taring her with the typical lying cheating woman brush. No it does not excuse her but it changes things.

That is how it is and that is how it is going to be. To me it seems like the right thing to do at this time, there is no point hating each other and being children. It solves nothing.
We will see in time how we move on.
 
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You might as well close the thread when the pussy is on a platform. If someone lied to me that would be the last time., Because you know what it means if she can come back now? It means she can get away with pretty much anything.


A relationship is a crappy deal at times, Which persons holds the higher interest level? This is always hard for the other person to accept but holds the key to understanding them both. And after this you may think it is you who has the power by taking her back. But really she will be able to see that it is her.


She can have two men at the same time, And both of them want her. And she can choose between any of them. She has made both of you her bitches sadly. I have been there and did that as well when i was younger and i only ever let that happen once. Because it is probably one of my biggest red flags for showing out who to avoid. The people who do this sometimes hide a much greater capacity for making you suffer. And in my personal experience they never change. They just find someone who they are happy to settle with who is going to put up with thier **** for the end of thier days.
 
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Mate she abandoned you, there is no reason for you to treat her like an adult.

SHE ABANDONED YOU and left you and did not even care to make a clean break after 8 years she just abandoned you.

There is no forgiveness in that kind of cruelty.

Stop being trying make it seem like a hollywood romance.

Wake the **** up and smell the cocaine, this woman is going to destroy you even further if you carry on communicating with her.
 
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Above all else, you don't want to be the one who is prepared to do anything to "save" the relationship. Or be the one endlessly giving the other side "another chance". Don't continue to make excuses for her or rationalise what she does in your own head.

For all we know she might not be confused or conflicted or vulnerable. That might actually be you. From what you've written, is most likely you.
 
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Don't belittle how I'm feeling. It's not like she was always a *****. Any relationship that breaks up can have been fine for many years before. Wouldn't it be easier if she was a proper *****?

The fact we were fine and she's not actually cheated make it harder. I wish she had treated me like hell because at least then it would be easier.

Don't forget it's only been just over a week. I think I have a right to feel the way I do. I'm still alive, going to work and socialising.. You write like I've gone insane and there's no reason for it.

Listen David.you wouldn't believe the percentage of couples that cheat in a marriage. And it goes without a doubt that women are worse than men for it. No matter how good a girl she is,or you think she is,it is a more common thing than you'd want to believe. I don't understand how you think she shares the same values as you. No matter how strong your relationship is,girls will cheat and Will get tempted by the other sex just as much as we all do.couple of wkds at the top of a mountain and a big rock!

Get your head into the realisation she is with this guy now,has been unfaithful,and is lying to you so she don't snap that branch,just incase the other branch brakes.David this is what all women do when they are being unfaithful and when there screwing another guy.

Its horrible the actual thought of this guy with your Mrs now.but this is the bit you need to get over most,along with her being unfaithful.
 
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^^ lol

I'll make a suggestion: regardless of our frustration at David not listening to good sense, perhaps we should lay off him for a bit?

Quite obviously he has yet to get the T-shirt the rest of us have already worn threadbare by now.
 
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I see the OP is firmly in the denial/defensive stage. TBH he isn't going to listen to anyone so the thread may as well be closed.

I had a messed up ex years ago who was a cheating little thing and I had known her for many years. She used to lie straight to my face, to her parents, in emails and you would think she was telling the truth, but nope she was still a cheating hussy. Took me a year of being messed about to finally realise she was a pro liar and manipulator. The guy she started seeing whilst seeing me thought we had broken up, yet she was seeing two people at once and used to spin all sorts of stories to both of us. I found out, stupidly took her back later and she started doing it again. She just liked the comfort feeling of knowing someone was there for her allowing her to monkey to another branch.

Friends, family, etc told me to get rid but I was blinded, as is the op, and refused to believe she was lying and manipulative. I suppose that is where the OP is at the moment. Only time will let him see as she lies again later on and is caught out. Believe me, even people you have known for 10 years are more than capable of lying straight to your face incredibly convincingly to try and keep hold of their life line - those around you can see it, but at the time you can't for some reason. Your GF sounds exactly the same as my mental ex who I ended up getting a restraining order against and haven't heard from in years!
 
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I see the OP is firmly in the denial/defensive stage. TBH he isn't going to listen to anyone so the thread may as well be closed.

I had a messed up ex years ago who was a cheating little thing and I had known her for many years. She used to lie straight to my face, to her parents, in emails and you would think she was telling the truth, but nope she was still a cheating hussy. Took me a year of being messed about to finally realise she was a pro liar and manipulator. The guy she started seeing whilst seeing me thought we had broken up, yet she was seeing two people at once and used to spin all sorts of stories to both of us. I found out, stupidly took her back later and she started doing it again. She just liked the comfort feeling of knowing someone was there for her allowing her to monkey to another branch.

Friends, family, etc told me to get rid but I was blinded, as is the op, and refused to believe she was lying and manipulative. I suppose that is where the OP is at the moment. Only time will let him see as she lies again later on and is caught out. Believe me, even people you have known for 10 years are more than capable of lying straight to your face incredibly convincingly to try and keep hold of their life line - those around you can see it, but at the time you can't for some reason. Your GF sounds exactly the same as my mental ex who I ended up getting a restraining order against and haven't heard from in years!

This. He's now just making excuses and trying to justify to complete strangers that don't really give a hoot either way. He's not going to listen and appear to need this woman as some sort of flotation device to go on breathing and living.

She'll do it again and he'll continue to be a whipped dog.
 
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PS, I have something of the same thing happening to a good mate of mine. This woman have been taking him for 40k plus the past 6 months and he's still hanging on to her.

So so sad to see grown 'men' reduced like this. To nothing
 
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As others have said, sadly the OP won't see it, will refuse to admit it, and will take her word for everything.

Yes, I don't know her, but I know that probability suggests she's been jumping on someone else. She can lie, and make up any old story she likes but the fact remains women like getting ploughed as much as the farmers like to do the ploughing, they don't want to admit that either.

I don't trust most of them as far as I can throw them, i've never really been burnt like that but I see it all the time. As long as they have someone in tow/on a leash they're happy.
 
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As above, OP has "Only I know her properly" head on.

I've been there, done that. Rest of my family told me I was best off out, in my heart I knew but I clung on with the belief that "we had something special that nobody else can understand" but you know what, it was all rubbish and my word, wasn't I better off when I realised it.
I played the field for a couple of years, found a cracking lady 6 years ago (online dating ftw) and now I'm living with her.
David will read this lot back in a month or 12 and realise (I hope!)
 
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Wake the **** up and smell the cocaine, this woman is going to destroy you even further if you carry on communicating with her.

Anyone got cliffnotes to thread?

Is op crawling back to her?

Also I agree with the above, if Op is letting her back into his life he is a very very foolish man and only pain awaits him.

Dating her is a total dead end and you know it, but are you going to be strong enough to admit it.
 
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If you are going to let her back in, don't do it yet. Give yourself some time to digest what's just happened. Might be that you can't look at her in the same way again if you don't come to terms with it yourself.
 
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