Replacement locks

dazz25 · 26 Apr 2016 at 13:06

Hi all,

I want to replace the locks on the front door and the back patio door so i'm in need of 2 locks. They are the typical euro cylinder locks.

Ideally I want both locks to use the same set of keys and the front door lock to have a thumb turn on the inside so it's the same as the current lock.

Can anybody suggest a place that would be able to do this for me? I know that there are places that will do locks that have the same keys etc but i'm failing in my search!

Many thanks

Relentless81 · 26 Apr 2016 at 13:13

If you're based in the northwest I have used pvc doctor for similar when moving into my current house last year. Recommended.

dazz25 · 26 Apr 2016 at 13:14

Perfect...i'm Cheshire/South Manchester so will take a look.

Thank you

AHarvey · 26 Apr 2016 at 13:22

try http://www.abs-secure.co.uk/

Cracking locks, good prices and highly recommended on here

dazz25 · 26 Apr 2016 at 13:23

Thank you, i'll take a look now

Pabl0 · 28 Apr 2016 at 19:38

AHarvey said:
try http://www.abs-secure.co.uk/

Cracking locks, good prices and highly recommended on here

Actually, these locks can be opened in seconds and are easier to open than a traditional premium euro cylinder. Avoid.

Firestar_3x · 28 Apr 2016 at 19:40

Pabl0 said:
Actually, these locks can be opened in seconds and are easier to open than a traditional premium euro cylinder. Avoid.

Proof needed.

Pabl0 · 28 Apr 2016 at 19:48

Firestar_3x said:
Proof needed.

I'm a NNAL qualified locksmith so won't be providing proof on a public forum. They're certainly not fitted to my house.

Firestar_3x · 28 Apr 2016 at 19:50

What makes them worse than any other cylinder which meets the same accreditation?

rodders · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:00

Reading their site, they seem good, lots a approvals. Sold secure diamond approval since 2010 and the only lock to have this.

But you say they can be opened in seconds? How do they get these approvals?

uchuff · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:00

also curious, we have one.

Pabl0 · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:05

Typed a decent reply and it vanished.

Certain methods have arisen since the release of the lock style. This won't effect your security to the average criminal, better then a cheap euro cylinder.

It hasn't changed the accreditation but all diamond (and lesser) locks have vulnerabilities, its the ease of taking advantage of these issues that could be an issue.

I don't want to create a panic, your locks are still very good and can't be opened in seconds by anyone.

st@nners · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:09

Pabl0 said:
I'm a NNAL qualified locksmith so won't be providing proof on a public forum. They're certainly not fitted to my house.

How do you rate this lock?

http://www.brisant-secure.com/ultion.php

Firestar_3x · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:11

Still struggling with the idea that these are easier to open than anyother TS007 approved or SBD lock.

Out of interest what would you recommend to fit instead (as in what have you fitted to your house)?

shadow_boxer · 28 Apr 2016 at 20:12

I'd also just double check your house insurance too with regards to thumb turn. They apparently weren't approved of in ours so had to change them.

uchuff · 28 Apr 2016 at 21:00

Not sure if it's what Pabl0 was alluding to but there's a £120 "ABS Standard Quick Opening Tool" that looks like it makes short work of an ABS lock once the user figures out which pin is the magnetic one.

As mentioned, not likely to be in common use by your average thief.

Firestar_3x · 28 Apr 2016 at 21:23

Problem is now we are talking about going equipped etc, much easier to smash someone window.

Pabl0 · 28 Apr 2016 at 21:26

Firestar_3x said:
Still struggling with the idea that these are easier to open than anyother TS007 approved or SBD lock.

Out of interest what would you recommend to fit instead (as in what have you fitted to your house)?

Like I said, its the actual lock design that makes it vulnerable and why it differs to other TS007 rated locks which can't have the same vulnerabilities.

Currently sport a BS 5 lever mortise, rim cylinder and chain. If I had a multi point locking system id use a decent euro (anti pick/drill/snap) with a SBD handle set.

You will never keep everyone out of your house, but with a simple set up you will stop 99% of intruders. The other 1% probably know they're is something in your house worth taking and are very well tooled and trained to get in.

Also make sure all other doors have similar security levels otherwise its all worthless.

I was alluding to using a tool but its the ease of using these tools that is an issue. Much locksmith tools take time and training to use so pare useless for almost all. I can't say the same for the abs tool.

Of course smashing a window can't be helped.

st@nners said:
How do you rate this lock?

http://www.brisant-secure.com/ultion.php

Very good. Dependent on price.

*Moangroan* · 28 Apr 2016 at 21:37

Pablo what types of anti bump/pick euro lock are better than the avocet . Something like yale or ???? A few makes to look out for.

DampCat · 15 Jun 2016 at 12:05

Just getting quotes now. I could probably do it myself but the company quoted a reasonable labour cost for front and back, and he pointed out a few things at the back I hadn't realised (and fixed them free of charge) so i'm gonna go with him now.

He fired over a quote with ABS locks as I'd asked but reading this has made me respond for a quote for the Ultions. Is that a better choice? I also read that the Mul-T locks are superb.

I know nothing will keep out a prepared and determined degenerate but I want to make it too much hassle to bother with.