Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

[dreigns]

If the performance of these cards justified the price increase, Nvidia would be showing of all the performance number's you could ever want. The fact that there is no performance information tells you everything you need to know about these cards.

But they never release number's they just say is X faster then this card from the previous gen, which they have done just with ray tracing so until there are some real benchmarks I wont worry, if they come out and show bad performance then I will ;0

 

[Bluntwrapped]

It’s almost as if Nvidia are deliberately holding back 4K for a while longer. They wouldn’t do that surely?

 

[EastCoastHandle]

If the performance of these cards justified the price increase, Nvidia would be showing off all the performance number's you could ever want. The fact that there is no performance information tells you everything you need to know about these cards.

Reasonable assertion.
I wonder if you will be quoted again once the benchmarks are out?


2080ti

 

[DragonQ]

Isn't 7nm Global an TMC more like intels 10nm from what I read they don't seem to be any standard way to meansure

Correct, they are comparable.

 

[Panos]

Going to be pretty amusung if AMD cards do Raytracing better then the non Raytracing Nvidia cards.

Edit:NM it may be hardware locked anyway.

I know this thread moving fast and you have missed my post from few pages back.

Nvidia Ray Tracing is restricted on the Gimpworks (truly now it gets deserves this name), and for Titan V/2070/2080/Ti (or better).


AMD RadeonRays 1 & 2 (released 2013 & 2018), support anything make from Hawaii onwards.
Also AMD has a nice very detailed documentation how to program efficiently RadeonRays on the CUDA cores also if someone wishes to implement the technology to Kelper, Maxwel, Pascal.

And I bet in few weeks AMD will release an update how to implement RadeonRays on the Turing architecture. As they have done for all the OpenGPU technologies.....

 

[jigger]

Reasonable assertion.
I wonder if you will be quoted again once the benchmarks are out?


2080ti

Between the size of the die and price, this has to mega fast. It's got to be monster.

 

[Hixxy0]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-427-as.html

This price blows my mind!

 

[Panos]

Isn't 7nm Global an TMC more like intels 10nm from what I read they don't seem to be any standard way to meansure

True.
But TSMC & GloFo are moving to 7nm EUV mid next year (same with all AMD products) for 2020 releases.
That is miles ahead of the Intel 10nm, which will start seeing products in 2020.

 

[Panos]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-427-as.html

This price blows my mind!

I was ridiculed on Saturday when commenting on the PNY price ($1000) wrote that look at the Strix it will be going for £1500.......

OK Technically is £0.01 cheaper so who ever argued about was right

 

[Greebo]

Have you seen the tomb raider run? 22fps will be but a dream at above 1080p

Can’t believe we are expected to be happy with 30-40fps on tomb raider with ray tracing on a 2080ti. I’ve got no chance at 4K. I’ll be running at less than 10fps!

 

[roysters]

I assume the OCUK 'Value' version is just the nvidia reference FE card

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-21s-ok.html

I bought OCUK version of the 1080ti was it was just the FE card.

 

[Panos]

I assume the OCUK 'Value' version is just the nvidia reference FE card

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-21s-ok.html

I bought OCUK version of the 1080ti was it was just the FE card.

No it states is
OCUK GEFORCE RTX 2080TI BLOWER 11264MB GDDR6 PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD


The FE doesn't have blower any more.

 

[roysters]

Oh crap, good spot! not that i had my mouse on the purchase button.... *cough

 

[crinkleshoes]

Why have these cards not been distributed to the reviewers?? You would expect them to be up same time as pre-order... unless of course they know they will be disappointing..

Can always cancel pre-order...

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Between the size of the die and price, this has to mega fast. It's got to be monster.

RTX isn't the tradition Arch. The traditional Arch now shares space with Tensor cores. It has to be big for that reason.

 

[azazl187]

We should run a betting game here how many pages we have before the first benchmark comes out, my guess we will be at about 600 + by then

Ok lets do it. I say sub 600 and you say plus 600 right?

 

[jigger]

RTX isn't the tradition Arch. The traditional Arch now shares space with Tensor cores. It has to be big for that reason.

These cards have to offer mega performance or they aren't premium products.

That die is huge! I'm pretty sure that top's Hawaii in size.

 

[Greebo]

I thought this ray tracing was only for the 20 series, so those who don't have an RTX 20 card, will just have the ray tracing option greyed out in the games options, so won't be able to turn it on, as can't do it ?

You can but since the 2070 is 10 times faster at ray tracing than a titan pascal xp and the 2080ti can only do ray tracing at 30fps at 1080p, I guess you will be able to switch it on and run at 10fps or less

 

[crinkleshoes]

These cards have to offer mega performance or they aren't premium products.

That die is huge! I'm pretty sure that top's Hawaii in size.

Yeah, but the tensor cores and rt cores are separate cores... they take up more space because they're effectively tagged on adjacent/integrated with the main die of what we would usually expect to be a GPU.

Like Intel 8700k... also has a GPU on the chip, with the CPU.

 

[FoxEye]

So basically nV have done exactly the same as AMD did, despite having billions more R&D money. Which is to make an AI/Pro card, and then attempt to re-purpose that same card/architecture for gaming.

Rather than making a true gaming card.