I often forget about this but realistically don't always find it that accurate. Apparently I'm pretty fatigued right now
Where's that in Elevate?
I had it installed but as my Maps and routes wouldn't load/display paths I'd disabled it. Anyone else see this? The map on an activity loads, but there's no path on it, no segments shown and no list of them below it.
Shirley if you would want a Tarmac then you would be looking at an Ultimate instead of an Aeroad. An Aeroad would be comparable to the Venge
Please don't call me Shirley mid-week
I'd gone the Tarmac route/choice because the previous Venge model was known to be a bit weighty and incredibly uncomfortable (too aggressive for me) as well as the integrated handlebar being ugly as sin. It was also known as a nightmare to tweak/change bars/positions with due to the bars.
As my current bike is quite heavy, not particularly aero but incredibly comfortable, I do 'everything' with it, including all commuting. The replacement/summer bike needs to be a combination of light, aero and stiffer. I know I have to compromise comfort for that. As it would possibly only be used for some very occasional summer commuting, the majority of it's riding being club rides/solo fast efforts, not 'easy' riding I think that's acceptable. As I've got quite a short inseam for the size 54 I'm currently riding I know I'd struggle to get comfortable on a size 54 aggressive aero bike, so the Tarmac seemed the logical choice - a little less aggressive (similar geometry to what I'd riding), while being incredibly light and stiff, sacrificing only some aero to the Venge. I know the recent Venge is loads better in most of those aspects, but it's probably still too aggressive a geometry for me, unless I tweaked a size 52 quite a lot? I should probably be able to get away with a size 54 Tarmac.
I'd thought the Canyon Aeroad as they're aero, light and stiff. I recall reading they don't 'suffer' from much additional weight compared to the Ultimate (compared to the Venge vs the Tarmac) and I had also heard they where not as aggressive. But that's possibly old information from older years versions. I basically couldn't see the Ultimate offering me enough - I already have a comfortable 'every day' & 'all day' type of comfortable ride/sportive bike. I think I'm after a stiffer, lighter, aero machine for fast riding. I do want to do some non-serious TT riding (with clip on tt bars).
The reason I'm looking the frame route is to build it up over an extended period to spread cost. I would initially use old/current wheels on it. I have a crankset and PWM. I want to build it up with hydraulic discs, with hopefully Ultegra DI2. I can't justify the £4k+ for that setup buying a complete bike.
The
Tarmac Expert is the cheapest 'good' framed Tarmac, but doesn't come with DI2. The
Pro which does is a different geometry more comfort orientated frame which isn't as stiff, or as light. So the only 'good' frame
Tarmac with Hydraulic DI2 is the £9500 top of the range S-Works... All of them over my budget and I would say the
bare frame at £3400 is around £1400 more than I'm prepared to spend on a frame alone...! And that's before bars/stem! Most of those prices for the Tarmac you can add +£300/400 to for the comparative Venge model/spec.
The Canyon CF SL 8.0 DI2 comes in at £1800 for the frameset, including integrated bars (which are a 'nice to have' on my list of requirements). Far more affordable and meets all my requirements to do a build on.
The Ultimate CF SL 8.0 DI2 frameset is even cheaper at ~£1700. But doesn't have integrated bars/stem.
There's a rumor there will be a new Aeroad out this year. so may worth waiting for the annoucement and net a bargain....if you decide to head down the Aeroad path. but i was always under the impression that Aeroad is one of the earlier generation aero bike i.e. lack of comfort?
Good shout, thanks as I wasn't aware of the new Aeroad on the horizon. From what I'd read before the Aeroad was one of the more comfortable ones but that might be utterly wrong haha
