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Pretty much.Pretty sure it was announced just to usurp AMD and stop the hype build before Navi was even officially announced.
Rodney... You plonker!boy.
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Pretty much.Pretty sure it was announced just to usurp AMD and stop the hype build before Navi was even officially announced.
Rodney... You plonker!boy.
This is a fairly fundamental flaw in the capitalist ideal of market competition. All companies want to maximize profit, and sell products at the highest possible margin the market will withstand. Companies don;t actually want to lower margins if they don't have to. In a market with very few providers there is thus a tendency to all cooperate and sell at the maximal profit margin. Effectively a duopoly tends to operate in much the same way as a monopoly. Currently Nvidia are happy with 80+% of the market, AMD are happy to have 20% and higher margins.
The idea that Nvidia would simply charge 3K for 2070 if it wasn't for AMD is just nonsense.
If AMD were to disappear Nvidia would still have to innovate and create products that people want in order to generate sales. The better Nvidia innovated and made bigger jumps in performance or features the more sales they would make. If AMD left the market, NVidia's would change strategy in more subtle ways. Releases might be further apart to better align with full node changes, but would ofer a bigger performance change. All launches would be hard, drivers even more mature at launch. It is liekly new features would be a prominent marketing point. Nvidia might work even closer with Developers to integrate these new features in order to drive upgrades.
It's a while since I played the game so I can't remember but I was definitely playing at 1440P.What quality preset are you using? are you at 1440p?
I'll try turning off hairworks.
Or more likely we'd end up in a situation like the CPU market where for years lack of competition lead to stagnation and the trickle feeding of tiny mostly incremental changes because people will still buy them regardless and all that innovation costs money.
Aren’t we there already? Nvidia keep churning out the same proportionally crippled hardware without making significant performance increases, to milk the premium tied to 4K gaming for as long as possible. RTX is a mugs game and a smokescreen to give the impression of progression while they continue to drag the arse out things.
I think we've been there for almost 3yrs now.
I accept Vega 56 has a value for less than 4k resolutions but everything else from 1080Ti to R7 and 2080Ti has just been a consumer nightmare. Nvidia are trying to de-commoditise mass produced electronics with marketing and its the consumer that pays for that.
The next benchmark in Nvidia R&D will be AI learning which will inevitably be used to produce more effective marketing. Nvidia could sell snow to a Eskimo if they wanted to. They’d call it ‘super snow’.
Watching one developer manipulate and stagnate a struggling market is depressing to say the least.
As a enthusiast, having no choice sucks
Agreed. As a former 1070 owner I'm now looking at a 5700XT, Radeon VII, 2080. None of which are great choices. All priced too high. I don't usually buy secondhand as IMO GPUs are one of the posts most likely to die.
Unless there's a shake up in pricing I don't have many choices. I'm not buying lower performance than a 1070 buys soon as you go higher than that the cost shoots up. Ironic that RAM prices have come down and now everything else looks expensive.
Nvidia have essentially killed the concept of “future proofing”
Here's a radical idea, how about OCUK et al do their punters a solid and get together and refuse to stock graphics cards until the pricing is more reasonable. I know it shouldn't be up to OCUK et al to do this but as long as the people are still spending ridiculous money on graphics cards it will only get worse. Still running a GTX 970 and proud of my willpower.
They're a business, and moral stands don't make money.
Yes, I agree, they are a business but with thousands of other products to keep sales ticking over. Making a stand could reduce prices on Graphics cards and in the end if the prices fall then more people will buy them which will give more profit with delivery and maybe better margins.
I think the only people happy with the card prices at the moment are nvidia
I think the only people happy with the card prices at the moment are nvidia
GPUs from both AMD and Nvidia are now actually more future proof than ever before.
In the past, graphics cards became obsolete very quickly. These days, people are keeping their exsiting graphics cards such as the 1080 ti for longer because there's nothing worth upgrading to. The industry's lack of progress has future proofed everyone.