PC base unit only spec

[Kurgen]

hi just done a basket for a mate, he cant wait for next ryzen CPU, is the spec below ok, for 1080p gaming.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £91.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £71.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 2700 4.10GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £218.99
• 1 x WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0A)= £54.95
• 1 x Gigabyte 256GB M.2 PCIe x2 NVMe SSD/Solid State Drive= £39.95
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 550W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £66.95
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G)= £289.99
• 1 x Antec P101S Silent Midi-Tower ATX Case - Black= £69.95
• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken 2 PCGH Edition Dual Fan CPU Cooler - 140 mm= £23.99

Total: £943.45 (includes shipping: £14.70)​

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[Danny75]

The issue with that one and most 550W PSUs and Vega cards is they tend to come with just one PCIe power cable with two connectors, and Vega likes two separate cables. Plus 550W is a bit borderline. Would go for 650W and ensure it has two cables for GPU.

Pretty sure you'll know about the poor VRMs/VRM cooling on budget Gigabyte B450/X470 boards, especially for 8 core/16 threads, so I'm guessing you still want to take the risk.

For a low-cost NVME M.2 I'd be looking at these. Used the WD Blue in a build two weeks ago and no issues. Better specs, warranty and probably better controller:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x WD Blue SN500 250GB NVMe M.2 2280 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS250G1B0C)= £46.99
• 1 x Corsair Force MP510 series 240GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F240GBMP510)= £47.99

Total: £103.68 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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You could just get a single M.2 like this to start him off and free up a bit of money for better motherboard and PSU:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Corsair Force MP510 series 480GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F480GBMP510)= £68.99

Total: £77.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​

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Maybe a case with better airflow for a Vega card.

 

[Kurgen]

happy for suggestions for alternative motherboards as well

 

[Plec]

Personally i would go for the Carbon Pro for future Zen 2 support - better VRM. And if you can't afford the 2700X i would again rather have the 2600X - unless he's clocking(?) - with an eye on Zen 2 upgrade in a couple of years time.

Upped the 550W to 650W for the V56 - and subbed a single 1Tb drive. Added a place holder case for anexample - good cooling but RGB :/

Removed cooler unless overclocking?

Oh, and this:

I am sure you'll be interested to hear, that competition at that end of the market is going to get weirder too, since from the info I have been given the 2700X is going to be <£199, the 2700 <£159 and the 2600 <£109, with the 2600x <£129, should see the prices from 1st July or maybe a day or two before apparently.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £119.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £199.99
• 1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3333MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX433C16PB3K2/16)= £89.99
• 1 x WD Blue 3D NAND 1TB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0A)= £119.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £74.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G)= £289.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox MB511 RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £69.95

Total: £978.09 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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[Plec]

Silent case - better airflow. Although you could remove all those drive bays on the Antec (presuming).

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Corsair Carbide 275Q Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (CC-9011164-WW)= £77.99

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[EsaT]

Even Asrock B450 Pro4 would have better VRM than that Gigabyte (or cheaper Asus boards) and for cheaper price.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-b450-pro4-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-16b-ak.html

And that £119 MSI would be certainly good for upgrade path with its good VRM.

For Vega card 650W would be better PSU size.
Vega's have very high power draw spikes at least at stock settings.

For normal home use that NVMe drive can really be scratched over to save budget for these other parts for more actual/longer time usage value.

 

[Kurgen]

with taking all of your suggestions into account how does this look. Ive still stuck to M.2 as well as a 1tb SSD.. if his budget can stretch is it worth vega64? or waste of time for 1080p at 60hz
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox MB511 RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £69.95
• 1 x MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £119.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £199.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Whisper M Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Dark T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TDGED4= £79.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G)= £289.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN500 250GB NVMe M.2 2280 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS250G1B0C)= £46.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £109.99

Total: £1,020.08 (includes shipping: £13.20)​

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[orbitalwalsh]

even Vega 56 is a bit overkill for 1080P 60Hz- Tend to push that with 1080p 75/144hz freesync screens - and then ryzen is handicapped at 1080p as intel is the better performer - specially when GPU becomes more powerful!

though ryzen 3*** series should change this!

also rx5700 xt and Pro launch on the 7th - not sure how this would knock GPU pricing down

as for SSD..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...id-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1-hd-08v-in.html

save yourself some cash and gain a little bit of performance across the board -£46 saved

bit more saving, PSU isn't as higher tier but £25 saving

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cool...onze-semi-modular-power-supply-ca-37m-cm.html

 

[Kurgen]

even Vega 56 is a bit overkill for 1080P 60Hz- Tend to push that with 1080p 75/144hz freesync screens - and then ryzen is handicapped at 1080p as intel is the better performer - specially when GPU becomes more powerful!

though ryzen 3*** series should change this!

also rx5700 xt and Pro launch on the 7th - not sure how this would knock GPU pricing down

as for SSD..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...id-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1-hd-08v-in.html

save yourself some cash and gain a little bit of performance across the board -£46 saved

bit more saving, PSU isn't as higher tier but £25 saving

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cool...onze-semi-modular-power-supply-ca-37m-cm.html

im gonna get one of thise m.2 for myself lol... is it worth putting up an intel spec? i still doubt i can get him to wait until the 7th

 

[orbitalwalsh]

im gonna get one of thise m.2 for myself lol... is it worth putting up an intel spec? i still doubt i can get him to wait until the 7th

shame , ryzen 3600 and b450 MSI board and your away .

hard with intel as he's not gamign at 1080p 144hz plus !

pricing wise, i5 9600k + z390 + 16gb 3000hz ram will equal ryzen 3600x + x570 + 3600hz ram - and should offer almost identical performance

intel version - non K but with z390 board so in future they could stick in i7/i9 second hand etc - vega 64 with 2 free games and 240gb free


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My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £389.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterWatt 650 - 650W 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular Power Supply= £64.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Z390-UD - Intel Core i3 9100F / i5 9400F CPU & Motherboard Bundle **Free 240GB Solid State = £279.98
  • Processor:*Build Promo* Intel Core i5-9400F 4.1GHz (Coffee Lake) Six Core Processor
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24= £59.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox MB511 RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £69.95
• 1 x Gigabyte UD Pro 512GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Toshiba 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £55.99
• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken ECO Advanced CPU Cooler - 120 mm= £29.99

Total: £964.08 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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vs ryzen

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My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £389.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterWatt 650 - 650W 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular Power Supply= £64.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox MB511 RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £69.95
• 1 x MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £119.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £199.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £71.99
• 1 x Gigabyte UD Pro 512GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Toshiba 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £55.99

Total: £986.09 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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note, i've kept vega 64 to match the pricing of your list with vega 56... and vega 64 IS A MASSIVE OVER KILL for 1080p 60hz, least tell them to upscale to 1440p with both vega cards !

and again, rx 3700 launches on the 7th - should be £350 price range for XT but is reference design

I'd side a little more with intel, but so hard to ignore ryzen 3600/X to be honest

 

[Kurgen]

thanks for everyones input, will get him to look at this thread, and try and get him to hold off until the 7th...

 

[Plec]

and try and get him to hold off until the 7th...

I would - the 3600/X looks ideal for his budget, paired with the Carbon Pro.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

You would be mad to jump at this point, wait till the new chips are out.

 

[rngunner]

thanks kurgen I'm now here I have returned the monitor to argos so I am now not tied to any monitor
guys I'm after a gaming rig that will play all games and can b future proofed I don't video edit and If I can get the finance I would say max spend 1400 to 1500 including monitor I am a laptop gamer but the specs I use were quite high for a gaming laptop and am now coming over to pc gaming as I would get max 3yrs out of a laptop before it does on me. I have always used intel so I don't have a clue ref amd.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

thanks kurgen I'm now here I have returned the monitor to argos so I am now not tied to any monitor
guys I'm after a gaming rig that will play all games and can b future proofed I don't video edit and If I can get the finance I would say max spend 1400 to 1500 including monitor I am a laptop gamer but the specs I use were quite high for a gaming laptop and am now coming over to pc gaming as I would get max 3yrs out of a laptop before it does on me. I have always used intel so I don't have a clue ref amd.

as above you've got options. Vega 56/64 great with a freesync 1440p 60/144hz monitor for £150-400 .

but wait till the 7th! and be quick on the button . currently ryzen lags behind at 1080p gaming , but if your able to get a higher res monitor, its not so bad. New Ryzen 3*** chips should be equal hopefully at 1080p/1440p gaming

x570 monitor will be expensive, unless Gigabyte X comes in at a nice price but have a feeling you'll be good with MSI B450 AC as listed above

 

[Kurgen]

x570 monitor will be expensive, unless Gigabyte X comes in at a nice price but have a feeling you'll be good with MSI B450 AC as listed above

Motherboard?

 

[Plec]

Motherboard?

The x570, Orbi is referring to is this - Clicky

Otherwise the MSI b450 Pro Carbon.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Motherboard?

aye, ryzen 3000 will be cheaper then intel for sure but have a feeling our ££ to $$ rate will cause slightly higher price then most, but performance should make up for it.

and then 2600hz ram is about £60 more then 3000hz so starts to add up

x570 boards are more expensive though- no hiding around it - in this case b450 carbon AC would be fine enough

 

[Kurgen]

if we get OC to build, assume they will flash the bios on the B450 for the 3000 series

 

[Plec]

if we get OC to build, assume they will flash the bios on the B450 for the 3000 series

Yes, they would.