My place or yours?
Can you be thrown out of heaven and into hell (and vice versa)
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My place or yours?
Some of my relatives used to go to a church group (not sure on the current status) that had all kinds of highly educated professional people including scientists with a whole string of letters to their name - proper active Christian group not like this stuff in the US, etc. that is more about making themselves feel better/done for appearance - I have no idea how they reconcile the two positions.
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The question boils down to what you think the sins are for?
As in there purpose as a sin.
Is it a list of words that you follow to the letter or you go to hell
Or is it an interpretation of what it means to be a 'good and moral person'
If its the former, then you stay in hell and anyone who believes an interpretation other than the original (oldest) is wrong.
If it's the latter, then people have just realised, over time, that their previous interpretations of 'gods morality' were wrong, and everyone they believed went to hell, did not. As the all knowing god would have always had the real interpretation, and all the abortions/homosexuals/people who wore garments of 2 woven threads actually went to heaven (if no other sins) while the preachers on earth claimed otherwise.
Personally, don't believe in Sky Pixies
As in there purpose as a sin.
Is it a list of words that you follow to the letter or you go to hell
Or is it an interpretation of what it means to be a 'good and moral person'
If its the former, then you stay in hell and anyone who believes an interpretation other than the original (oldest) is wrong.
If it's the latter, then people have just realised, over time, that their previous interpretations of 'gods morality' were wrong, and everyone they believed went to hell, did not. As the all knowing god would have always had the real interpretation, and all the abortions/homosexuals/people who wore garments of 2 woven threads actually went to heaven (if no other sins) while the preachers on earth claimed otherwise.
Personally, don't believe in Sky Pixies
Caporegime
Then surely they have a case for mitigation from God as they were led down the wrong path so Heaven must be pretty full due to administration error!
Hitler could have gone to God and truly believed he was divine in what he did and thus be excused because he was led down the wrong path.
Soldato
Sounds like they were following false prophets, that's a sin already.
Clearly need to read the source material personally and get the interpretation right yourself.
I'm not making the rules here
Man of Honour
Nooo
I was looking forward to being trapped eternally with two devil women dressed up in spiky red high heels and corsets with horns on..
I must stop drinking tea before bed.
Soldato
honestly, if all it takes to be cleansed of any evil doings is to say your sorry I can't image there are many people in hell anyway.
"Now this device is designed to eternally insert a large pineapple into your rectu.... " "I AM SO SORRY!"
Whoosh
Up to heaven
"Now this device is designed to eternally insert a large pineapple into your rectu.... " "I AM SO SORRY!"
Whoosh
Up to heaven
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Myspace said many years ago i used to be a turkish astronomer, proof that heaven does exist and recycles
The biblical story of jacobs ladder suggests there is a route from hell to heaven. The story of Jacobs ladder is a bible tale but it was made into a hollywood film in the early 90's.
If you haven't seen it yet you should.
When I am at my lowest, when I feel worst, I think maybe there is a path to 'heaven'.
I don't belive in heaven or hell but I belive your brain can certainly torment itself in such a way as to create hell.
Have edited it a second time to remove the spoiler. Watch the 1990(1991) hollywood film called jacobs ladder.
You will have a better understanding of heaven and hell then.
If you haven't seen it yet you should.
When I am at my lowest, when I feel worst, I think maybe there is a path to 'heaven'.
I don't belive in heaven or hell but I belive your brain can certainly torment itself in such a way as to create hell.
Have edited it a second time to remove the spoiler. Watch the 1990(1991) hollywood film called jacobs ladder.
You will have a better understanding of heaven and hell then.
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Can i plant a magic bean, or is the ladder a deal breaker?
Soldato
Why don't you all sing me a song, you're a singer.
Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil. The devil is never a maker. The less that you give, you're a taker. So it's on and on and on. It's heaven and hell, oh well, yeah.
Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil. The devil is never a maker. The less that you give, you're a taker. So it's on and on and on. It's heaven and hell, oh well, yeah.
Man of Honour
Long live rjd
Man of Honour
but where is he?
Maybe heaven and hell are simply constructs within our reality shaped by the actions of ourselves and those around us.
This to me is 'soft rock.'
Show me what Led Zep or the who had to say about this pls.