Poll: Austrian Grand Prix 2020, Spielberg - Race 1/?

[this_is_gav]

Leclerc's lap in 2019 - 1:03.003
Leclerc's lap in 2020 - 1:03.923

While some cars improved times, some dramatically, ALL Ferrari-engined cars lost time over their equivalent laps last year.

This is to the nearest tenth (I haven't bothered rounding as it wouldn't make any meaningful difference).

Leclerc +0.9 (Q3)
Vettel +0.6 (Q2)
Magnussen +0.4 (Q1)
Grosjean +0.2 (Q2)
Raikkonen +0.6 (Q1)
Giovinazzi +0.7 (Q1)




Just to note too that if Hamilton is punished for going quickly through a yellow flag then he will likely start tenth, not second. I'm pretty certain his first lap in Q3 was outside track limits (all four wheels over the red and white kerb). His second was just clinging onto track limits. That said I've seen no indication that he did anything wrong as I haven't seen any mini-sectors.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Tomorrow's podium
Hamilton
Bottas
Verstappen

I wouldn’t bet against that.

 

[Mr Jack]

Vettel?

It would amuse. Do it for the lols, Horner!

 

[this_is_gav]

Just to add to my previous post:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279416753974542337

 

[mushtafa]

We're back!

Some surprising results today. The field is nicely jumbled up, and Williams almost made it into Q2!

Fingers crossed we're going to get a good season. It's exciting to see what Red Bull can offer

 

[GravyMonster]

From the onboard with Bottas on his pole lap it doesn't look like he used DAS at all. Logic would then dictate that Merc are using it to heat the tyres and extend their life during a race and not for pure one-lap pace.

 

[cainer]

Crofty: "Mercedes are in their black face livery"

erm..

 

[chrismscotland]

Vettel?

It wouldn't surprise me, I don't think Verstappen would be scared to compete with him, Max know's he's faster.

 

[GravyMonster]

Vettel?

That would actually make some sense. But if RB are unwilling to eat humble pie to get Kvyat back, they'd have to eat a whole tipper truck to get Vettel.

 

[Quartz]

I've just watched the qualifying highlights

and it seems to me that on the last corner in particular - but also others (e.g. Vettel turn 1) - many cars were exceeding the track limits yet their laps were counted.

 

[Kenai]

I've just watched the qualifying highlights


and it seems to me that on the last corner in particular - but also others (e.g. Vettel turn 1) - many cars were exceeding the track limits yet their laps were counted.

The limits here are effectively 'as long as you're just about on the red and white kerb', rather than the white lines

 

[Flibster]

Social distancing anyone?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279399940045918210

 

[JRS]

Ferrari never had good aero

Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.

Love seeing Ferrari struggle

Enjoy it while it lasts Probably won't be this year, might not even be next year, but one thing you can be sure of is that Ferrari will get back to the top.

 

[Greboth]

Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.



Enjoy it while it lasts Probably won't be this year, might not even be next year, but one thing you can be sure of is that Ferrari will get back to the top.

I’m pretty sure people would have said the same about Williams 20+ years ago. Though I don’t think Ferrari will be that bad, it could take them a number of years to claw back to the front.

Looking at FP times, we knew Ferrari were going to be off the pace but I was surprised how much.

 

[JRS]

I’m pretty sure people would have said the same about Williams 20+ years ago. Though I don’t think Ferrari will be that bad, it could take them a number of years to claw back to the front.

Ferrari have done it before, suffering some bloody lean times before coming good. It wasn't a great deal of fun being a Ferrari fan in the early '90s - the occasional glorious moment, but an awful lot of wrong turns taken.

Williams have had rather less money to throw at the job. They're also still hung up on doing stuff a certain way because that's how they always did it. Even though it doesn't work any longer.

 

[mmj_uk]

Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.

I was talking recent seasons where they've relied mainly on straight line speed to be competitive and nobody else could touch them in top speed, if you can blast past everyone on the straights then even if you corner like the Titanic you can still keep people behind you and even if they pass you on the corner which is difficult you can just blast past them on the next straight. It's obvious that Ferrari's engine "optimisations" have led to them neglecting aero, now their engine is like everyone elses and they're the master of none.

 

[pacegod]

Hamilton is investigated. "Allegedly failing to slow for yellow flags between turns 5 and 7" in Q3. He's in with the Stewards.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

If he gets penalised he’ll still end up P2. With few races this season that could hurt him though.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

He’s been cleared!

https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/04/hamilton-cleared-over-yellow-flag-speeding/

“The driver mentioned that he passed a green light panel in turn five,” the stewards noted. “The video footage confirmed that there have been yellow flags and green light panels at the same time and therefore conflicting signals were shown to the driver.

“Taking this into account, the stewards decide to take no further action.”