Poll: Austrian Grand Prix 2020, Spielberg - Race 1/?

Rate the 2020 Austrian Grand Prix (1) out of ten

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Flibster said:
Leclerc's lap in 2019 - 1:03.003
Leclerc's lap in 2020 - 1:03.923
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While some cars improved times, some dramatically, ALL Ferrari-engined cars lost time over their equivalent laps last year.

This is to the nearest tenth (I haven't bothered rounding as it wouldn't make any meaningful difference).

Leclerc +0.9 (Q3)
Vettel +0.6 (Q2)
Magnussen +0.4 (Q1)
Grosjean +0.2 (Q2)
Raikkonen +0.6 (Q1)
Giovinazzi +0.7 (Q1)




Just to note too that if Hamilton is punished for going quickly through a yellow flag then he will likely start tenth, not second. I'm pretty certain his first lap in Q3 was outside track limits (all four wheels over the red and white kerb). His second was just clinging onto track limits. That said I've seen no indication that he did anything wrong as I haven't seen any mini-sectors.
 
We're back! :cool::cool:

Some surprising results today. The field is nicely jumbled up, and Williams almost made it into Q2!

Fingers crossed we're going to get a good season. It's exciting to see what Red Bull can offer
 
From the onboard with Bottas on his pole lap it doesn't look like he used DAS at all. Logic would then dictate that Merc are using it to heat the tyres and extend their life during a race and not for pure one-lap pace.
 
I've just watched the qualifying highlights



and it seems to me that on the last corner in particular - but also others (e.g. Vettel turn 1) - many cars were exceeding the track limits yet their laps were counted.
 
Quartz said:
I've just watched the qualifying highlights


and it seems to me that on the last corner in particular - but also others (e.g. Vettel turn 1) - many cars were exceeding the track limits yet their laps were counted.
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The limits here are effectively 'as long as you're just about on the red and white kerb', rather than the white lines
 
mmj_uk said:
Ferrari never had good aero
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Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.

Milkybk said:
Love seeing Ferrari struggle
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Enjoy it while it lasts :p Probably won't be this year, might not even be next year, but one thing you can be sure of is that Ferrari will get back to the top.
 
JRS said:
Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.



Enjoy it while it lasts :p Probably won't be this year, might not even be next year, but one thing you can be sure of is that Ferrari will get back to the top.
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I’m pretty sure people would have said the same about Williams 20+ years ago. Though I don’t think Ferrari will be that bad, it could take them a number of years to claw back to the front.

Looking at FP times, we knew Ferrari were going to be off the pace but I was surprised how much.
 
Greboth said:
I’m pretty sure people would have said the same about Williams 20+ years ago. Though I don’t think Ferrari will be that bad, it could take them a number of years to claw back to the front.
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Ferrari have done it before, suffering some bloody lean times before coming good. It wasn't a great deal of fun being a Ferrari fan in the early '90s - the occasional glorious moment, but an awful lot of wrong turns taken.

Williams have had rather less money to throw at the job. They're also still hung up on doing stuff a certain way because that's how they always did it. Even though it doesn't work any longer.
 
JRS said:
Absolutely correct.

I mean, apart from the times that they had the best aero in the 2000s.

But apart from that, absolutely correct.
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I was talking recent seasons where they've relied mainly on straight line speed to be competitive and nobody else could touch them in top speed, if you can blast past everyone on the straights then even if you corner like the Titanic you can still keep people behind you and even if they pass you on the corner which is difficult you can just blast past them on the next straight. It's obvious that Ferrari's engine "optimisations" have led to them neglecting aero, now their engine is like everyone elses and they're the master of none.
 
Hamilton is investigated. "Allegedly failing to slow for yellow flags between turns 5 and 7" in Q3. He's in with the Stewards.
 
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