A moment of silence for the Crucial brand

Hm, depends what 'fruition' means. I watched an interview with Professor Stuart Russell who is somewhat concerned by what's coming.

Having written the textbook on AI and been in the field for decades he says the handful of AI companies aiming for AGI seem to think an extinction level event is a probability - between 20 and 30%.

AI will change the world be it through extinction or, if some safe guards are actually implemented then we'll have a new reality to deal with in any case.

I think RAM prices will be the least of our concerns in the next few years.

If you're interested, it's about an hour long though
Is there a summary of it somewhere. Are we talking Terminator type stuff here.
 
Is there a summary of it somewhere. Are we talking Terminator type stuff here.
I think the take away was just as Gorillas wouldn't know nor even comprehend how humans could just wipe them out, we may not comprehend the way we could be.

Nuclear, engineered pathogen, deflecting solar radiation to turn earth into an ice ball, some way not even fathomable.

Sorry, I've gone way off on tangent in a RAM thread.
 
All these companies and CEOs putting all their eggs in the AI basket. Even though pretty much every investment expert is saying the bubble is going to burst at any moment now. Then they will all go down with it, just like in the dotcom crash.

Just goes to show you don't need to be smart to reach the top...
 
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It is crazy how hard businesses are going on the AI thing. Yet, now we the consumers are shafted first with prices and now with companies leaving the retail market, how long can they sustain this people people get bored and move on?

The AI bubble will burst eventually and it will hurt everyone.
 
GamersNexus | Posted: December 5 2025 said:
Micron has sold out consumers and terminated its consumer line of house brand memory products, Crucial, to focus on the illusory two-lettered god of money, AI. This comes at a time when Micron is raking-in record tax breaks, government subsidies, and taxpayer money, which it apparently is choosing to then pass on primarily to its megacorporate "AI" customers. The situation leaves consumers high and dry, again, by an industry with a corrupt past wrought with fraud and price fixing.

The memory industry is primarily comprised of Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, and with only 3 companies controlling effectively all relevant memory supply, once unspoken gentleman's agreements have now become simple public statements that could signal to "competitors" what the next move is.

 
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A big portion of their issues were with early SSD's using certain controllers, I think it was the early Sandforce related stuff that had huge failure rates.

Correct! We had a huge box of old Sandforce based Kingston SSDs at my old job ready for the bin, and being one to never turn down free SSDs (even non-working ones it would seem) I grabbed a few.

Luckily, about 50% of them were still just about alive and after a firmware update have been working away quite happily ever since. The rest were absolutely knackered, with the controller having gone into its panic state and showing as a 'Sandforce' drive in the BIOS.

There are some clever people out there and after stumbling on a few guides detailing how and where to source the original LSI tools and firmware packages for Sandforce drives, I set about attempting to reflash them with their original firmware... thus removing the panic lock and returning the drive to a working state.

What do you know... it actually worked, and I was able to recover every single one of those drives!

Dead drive, note the 33KB capacity

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And fixed...

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I know a 240GB drive is pretty useless these days but it's pretty sickening to think about the amount of e-waste these things generated when there was a perfectly viable fix for them all along.
 
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I know a 240GB drive is pretty useless these days but it's pretty sickening to think about the amount of e-waste these things generated when there was a perfectly viable fix for them all along.

Good job getting them fixed! Such a shame so many of those drives ended up binned.

I still think there's uses for old SATA SSD's, they're great for giving a boost to a PS3 for someone's retro collection or to give some fresh life to an older laptop or something. My old 60gb Agility 3 ended up in my Playstation 3 once I retired it from boot duties, made a world of difference to load times.
 
I'm calling it right now. I think someone with a lot of money is going to open a crazy efficient factory to pump out memory and take advantages of these prices. Elon?

These companies should be focusing on this, they're all competing to get there faster and that'll become a race of investment to get the cash together to outbid each other on hardware, if they just built dedicated factories that can pump our memory at absurd speeds they'd lock their position as front runners, and could sell the excess memory back into the market for consumers and other data centers.
 
It is crazy how hard businesses are going on the AI thing. Yet, now we the consumers are shafted first with prices and now with companies leaving the retail market, how long can they sustain this people people get bored and move on?

The AI bubble will burst eventually and it will hurt everyone.
Well, if every x'th job gets replaced by AI, a lot of us will be shafted by no longer being able to afford anything.

And that kind of AI-mageddon doesn't even need Artificial General Intelligence, or some kind if SkyNet blowing all humans up.
 
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I'm calling it right now. I think someone with a lot of money is going to open a crazy efficient factory to pump out memory and take advantages of these prices. Elon?

These companies should be focusing on this, they're all competing to get there faster and that'll become a race of investment to get the cash together to outbid each other on hardware, if they just built dedicated factories that can pump our memory at absurd speeds they'd lock their position as front runners, and could sell the excess memory back into the market for consumers and other data centers.
You might be seriously underestimating how expensive leading edge 1x memory fabs are.

In a previous post
I estimated that currently worldwide DRAM fabs - excluding NANd and all "general" ASIC fabs - might be worth around $250 billion. And due to shortages of some parts, even if someone had $250 billion in cash, they could hardly instantly double worldwide production.
 
I kind of hope the AI bubble bursts and consumers remember which companies forgot about them.
Exactly this....^ It's become so disgusting that we all need to remember this that purchase their products.

The A.I bubble will burst but sadly is going to make a huge mess worldwide for everyone. :mad:
 
If the AI bubble bursts we're very likely going to nose dive into the worst recession we've ever seen.

It's going to be tragic when this goes pop.. Like we have never seen before, no matter what anyone tells you. The amount of money this time round is insane compared to past bubbles. :mad:
 
It's going to be tragic when this goes pop.. Like we have never seen before, no matter what anyone tells you. The amount of money this time round is insane compared to past bubbles. :mad:

I really don't think people understand how bad it'll be if the bubble pops, almost every major company has massively invested huge amounts of money into AI. I'm not talking tech related companies either, I literally mean every big company has massive investment in AI and if it flops we're all utterly buggered.

It's not fun if it doesn't pop don't get me wrong, I'd say more but frankly we're in for some dark times.


IBM are currently looking to sell the AI model they used for the above report, they functionally shut down their entire HR department in favour of AI and used the saved cash to hire more research orientated staff.

This is not going away.
 
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You might be seriously underestimating how expensive leading edge 1x memory fabs are.

In a previous post
I estimated that currently worldwide DRAM fabs - excluding NANd and all "general" ASIC fabs - might be worth around $250 billion. And due to shortages of some parts, even if someone had $250 billion in cash, they could hardly instantly double worldwide production.

No, I know how expensive it is, but if there's massive margins and a huge shortfall of supply it means there's a massive opportunity in the market to make them, you dont need to have that much "cash" you just need to be willing to throw in a lot of your own, and then have investors all take a piece. The fundamental problem here is supply is low and demand is high, you fix that with a lot more supply. Whoever does this first will have licence to print money AND reserve a lot of chips for their own projects. So if someone like Elon was to do this, he'd probably shovel them dirt cheap to Nvidia to make their xAI compute units for Grok. Elon has a lot of net work now and vertical integration for him is a massive deal.

Also tesla should make high end GPUs :D
 
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