We don't feel British, say Asians
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Ex-RoNiN said:
Unfortunately the SNP cannot hold a referendum as they don't have enough seats for a the majority required to push the white paper through
Presumably Westminster would just ignore the result of any such referendum though, anyway?JimmyEatWorms said:Unfortunately the SNP cannot hold a referendum as they don't have enough seats for a the majority required to push the white paper through
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dirtydog said:
I think that would be quite unlikely. They could make the process very difficult but to outright block it would be political suicide.
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wohoo said:I class myself as English, and im also a Muslim, i dont define myself as a certain percentage of anything.
I have no problems in fitting, whether that going to the pub and socialising without drinking, or only having egg and cheese melt on a friday instead of bacon and egg, I couldnt give a rats ass whether someone here would accept me as English or not.I even follow the national, infact i have been to several tournament with the supporters club
On the other hand i have been also called a Bounty several times by asians, again i dont care, i love this country and what it has done for me and my family, im very greatfull infact.
I dont think anyone has cause for complaint in this country, the opportunities are there for all if they want to work hard.
I think asians still have many hang-ups however,until they get rid of the bloody enclaves in the north and south and actually bother to integrate, they wont find out that this country and its natives (well most of em) are actually a pretty great bunch.Its down to some natives to stop continually villifying us, yes have some things to answer for, but bloody hell we aint all the sodding same.
For ex someone posted up a pic of monty panesar a while back, and wasnt happy that this bloke was playing for his country ie giving his all for his country,and then these are the same people which want us to 'feel' part of this nation.......
Pretty much exactly how I feel too.
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Spawn said:Confirm what exactly??.
Tbh i havent really had to put up with any racial abuse ie go back home you **** etc etc...possibly because id be on the floor laughing my ass off at the person who said it to me. But if someone ever did say that to me, id gladly say to them..fine ill go back but at least pay for my ticket..first class please
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Just confirmed that home is where you feel it is, not necessarily your heritage or where you're born.
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wohoo said:I class myself as English, and im also a Muslim, i dont define myself as a certain percentage of anything.
I have no problems in fitting, whether that going to the pub and socialising without drinking, or only having egg and cheese melt on a friday instead of bacon and egg, I couldnt give a rats ass whether someone here would accept me as English or not.I even follow the national, infact i have been to several tournament with the supporters club
On the other hand i have been also called a Bounty several times by asians, again i dont care, i love this country and what it has done for me and my family, im very greatfull infact.
I dont think anyone has cause for complaint in this country, the opportunities are there for all if they want to work hard.
I think asians still have many hang-ups however,until they get rid of the bloody enclaves in the north and south and actually bother to integrate, they wont find out that this country and its natives (well most of em) are actually a pretty great bunch.Its down to some natives to stop continually villifying us, yes have some things to answer for, but bloody hell we aint all the sodding same.
For ex someone posted up a pic of monty panesar a while back, and wasnt happy that this bloke was playing for his country ie giving his all for his country,and then these are the same people which want us to 'feel' part of this nation.......
if only everyone felt this way, then maybe we wouldnt have half the trouble we do now.
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Assuming you mean only if all Asians felt that way?helpimcrap said:if only everyone felt this way, then maybe we wouldnt have half the trouble we do now.
How about we look at the other side of the coin? However hard Asians try to fit into society people like DD will always try to find a way to make them an outcast of society.
In reality it's people like DD who should change their views. Then, maybe both parties can get along.
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dirtydog said:
But the test is entirely arbitrary, in the sad event that I'm forced to watch cricket I would pick the team that plays the 'best' cricket although for my money the concept of cricket ever being good* is as alien to me as the idea that the earth is flat.
If you want to pick football then I could say I support Scotland first and foremost but I'm quite used to switching my allegience easily as soon as Scotland go out or in the common event of them not making it there in the first place. Britishness is a very nebulous concept that inherently means different things to different people.
*incidentally golf is entirely the same in my view, I appreciate there is some skill involved but I have no interest in it.
div0 said:
'They' as in the black people, of course.
No, jokes aside, 'they' as in the respective people of those countries. I love it when people say to me 'oh no one really wants to see the break up of the UK', I mean really, how can anyone tell me that with a straight face when the Scottish first minister is the leader of the SNP whose manifesto is Scottish independence? They must think we're a bunch of thickos to believe that. I would say the people who make that claim though are people who are for the Union, so they are probably a little bit in denial about the situation. I would also say that most Scottish who are for the Union tend not even to consider themselves British either. They are just happy with the POLITICAL arrangement of the Union, as opposed to it actually being some kind of identity.dark_shadow said:
Absolutely, this is something i have seen far too often in my short 30 years on this earth, for some its never enough, and never will be
That said more of the onus is on 'us' as we are the 'alien' party, maybe we need to open the doors to our Mosques,Gurdwara's,Synagogues, even our homes to show people, hey we aint so different, i know when i was growing up, my white friends were shocked when they came to our house, as they expected summat totally different.
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if a dog is born in a stable does it think its a horse?
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