MBP - Replace HDD with a 7200rpm....

MagicBoy · 18 Feb 2008 at 19:05

Not worth the bother IMO. Seek times are a bit quicker, but with a pile of RAM installed caching takes the edge off. Transfer rates between a 7200 and a big (200GB+) 5400 drive are not much different.

I swapped my drive once it was out of warranty, but then again 80Gb to 250Gb was more worthwhile.

WotDa · 18 Feb 2008 at 19:27

Concorde Rules said:
Its +/- 2W at best.

I spent a few weeks researching 4200/5400/7200 for my eSATA 2.5" external HD

Faster access + transfers ***.

Did you change the drive in your MBP in the end? I'm pondering new drives all round for when I get my new camera.

iSam · 18 Feb 2008 at 19:46

Found this, which may be of interest.

HERE

TheVoice · 18 Feb 2008 at 19:52

Panzerbjorn said:
Are you sure 25GB is going to be enough for Vista?

I've got a 32GB partition of vista with Steam, HL2:EP2 and Portal installed on it (nothing else) and I've got a whopping 3GB of free space left! Vista is a mother of an install.

Panzer

Turn off system restore if you don't need it, and run Disk Cleanup and remove the Hibernation file. You'll get back a few GB just like that.

Westyfield2 · 18 Feb 2008 at 20:12

Isotope said:
Found this, which may be of interest.

HERE

Thanks, so according to that there's a very slight power saving!

http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/notebook/momentus/7200.2/100451238d.pdf lists exactly the same power ratings for the 200gb as he recorded for the 160gb too

Unfortunately I don't know which 160gb 5400rpm is currently in mine, system profiler says it's a Fujitsu MHW2160BHPL, but a quick google reveals that to not always be true :rolleyes:

MagicBoy · 18 Feb 2008 at 20:51

Westyfield2 said:
Unfortunately I don't know which 160gb 5400rpm is currently in mine, system profiler says it's a Fujitsu MHW2160BHPL, but a quick google reveals that to not always be true

Eh, how? I assume system profiler interrogates the drive firmware.

I don't hold much stock in Fujitsu laptop drives. We get a split between them and Hitachi's in the ThinkPads we get from work. The Hitachi's are faster and more reliable.

I prefer Hitachi or Seagate in that order. So naturally I've got a Samsung in mine because it was an absolute bargain!

FreeStream · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:04

WotDa said:
Did you change the drive in your MBP in the end? I'm pondering new drives all round for when I get my new camera.

No, got the 160Gb 7200 from Apple.

I want a 64Gb SSD in there now tho as im only using 40gb of it :/

iSam · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:06

Where can you get a solid state from?

Westyfield2 · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:10

MagicBoy said:
Eh, how? I assume system profiler interrogates the drive firmware.

I don't hold much stock in Fujitsu laptop drives. We get a split between them and Hitachi's in the ThinkPads we get from work. The Hitachi's are faster and more reliable.

I skim read this thread http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=340881

MagicBoy said:
I prefer Hitachi or Seagate in that order. So naturally I've got a Samsung in mine because it was an absolute bargain!

Hmm, that's the complete opposite of what Atomiser & Justin said :confused:

Westyfield2 · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:11

Isotope said:
Where can you get a solid state from?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-047-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910
Bit pricey though!

FreeStream · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:14

Isotope said:
Where can you get a solid state from?

OcUK, £500ish IIRC.

So im waiting until thats about £100

iSam · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:18

Concorde Rules said:
OcUK, £500ish IIRC.

So im waiting until thats about £100

Ouch, can see where you are coming from! Would be tempted if the price came down.

Irish_Tom · 18 Feb 2008 at 21:32

TheVoice said:
Turn off system restore if you don't need it, and run Disk Cleanup and remove the Hibernation file. You'll get back a few GB just like that.

Cheers Voice.

Damn this Windows malarky.

Panzer

WotDa · 18 Feb 2008 at 22:04

Westyfield2 said:
Hmm, that's the complete opposite of what Atomiser & Justin said

I'd take the Hitachi over the Seagate.

FreeStream · 18 Feb 2008 at 22:41

Hiatchi over the Seagate, the 7K200 is the fastest 2.5" HDD atm. Period.

JUMPURS · 19 Feb 2008 at 06:40

Warranty Document 2 said:
Apple reserves the right to refuse service on products that have serial numbers altered, defaced or removed or that are damaged due to accident, abuse, neglect, misuse (including faulty installation, repair, or maintenance by anyone other than Apple or an Apple Authorised Service Provider), unauthorised modification, extreme environment (including extreme temperature or humidity), extreme physical or electrical stress or interference, fluctuation or surges of electrical power, lightning, static electricity, fire, acts of God or other external causes. In such event, Apple may return the product to you without servicing it.

Surely the faulty installation repair.... you highlighted is only talking about the misuse part? A new HDD would surely void the warranty under 'unauthorised modification'?

Did the Authorised repair place say it wouldn't void the warranty?

iSam · 19 Feb 2008 at 10:11

JUMPURS said:
Surely the faulty installation repair.... you highlighted is only talking about the misuse part? A new HDD would surely void the warranty under 'unauthorised modification'?

Did the Authorised repair place say it wouldn't void the warranty?

It says it in the document. Unless done by a re-seller it would void the warranty.

SIAT · 19 Feb 2008 at 11:22

As long as you don't damage any parts doing an upgrade apple cannot refuse a warranty because of it. That quote above says faulty installation specifically to cover this.

Westyfield2 · 19 Feb 2008 at 18:01

Concorde Rules said:
the 7K200 is the fastest 2.5" HDD atm. Period.

Sauce?

The Bare Feats review, has the Hitachi 7k200 recording faster times for large sustained transfers, but the Seagate recording faster times for small random transfers.

So we've got Justin & atomiser saying to get the Seagate, and MagicBoy, WotDa & Concorde Rules saying to get the Hitachi :confused:

Would it therefore be a fair assumption that the difference between these two drives is negligible, so go with whichever warranty/brand I prefer?

WotDa · 19 Feb 2008 at 18:20

Go with the drive with the fastest transfer in what you plan on doing.

Most of the time I imagine you'll not be doing many small random transfers.