You would seriously pay and recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra to move from a 768MB GTX 460 to a 1024MB GTX 460 to gain an average extra 4FPS @ 1920x1200 with "eye-candy"?
Are you messing about or are you being serious?
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460 1gb and 768mb
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Are you messing about or are you being serious?
"Money to Burn"
The 64bit extra memory bus and the 256MB extra memory will help a more decent frame rate at res above 1680x1050, games using the latest technology need more and more memory. Sure if he's gaming at 1680x1050 and dont plan on moving to a higher res the 768MB card is a very good bang for buck. But IMO if your going to be gaming at a higher res than 1680x1050 the extra memory bus and memory is worth it.
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IMO the extra ROPs are worth it - they won't show a massive difference in average fps but they will help quite a bit in certain types of intensive scenes to keep performance more stable, the extra VRAM doesn't go amiss either as games are quickly moving into the 800-900MB territory atm.
Hello Mayfair 
The question:
In light of the data presented to you in this thread do you still stand by your original statement and would seriously pay and recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra to move from a 768MB GTX 460 to a 1024MB GTX 460 to gain an average extra 4FPS @ 1920x1200 with "eye-candy"?
This is just another "literal" truth . . . however this doesn't answer the question . . .
this is yet another "literal" truth . . . however this "still" doesn't answer the question . . .
The question:
In light of the data presented to you in this thread do you still stand by your original statement and would seriously pay and recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra to move from a 768MB GTX 460 to a 1024MB GTX 460 to gain an average extra 4FPS @ 1920x1200 with "eye-candy"?
Yes i would pay the extra driffence in price for the extra memory bus and VRAM. (Becouse i have...)
It seems we have a difference in opinion, Let's Agree to disagree as they say...
Enough said.
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Hello Mayfair
You only half answered the question . . . Can you answer it fully please . . . don't forget the bit about recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra for the 4FPS bit . . . will you still do that? . . . will you still recommend to people that paying the extra is a good move?
The question:
In light of the data presented to you in this thread do you still stand by your original statement and would seriously pay and recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra to move from a 768MB GTX 460 to a 1024MB GTX 460 to gain an average extra 4FPS @ 1920x1200 with "eye-candy"?
You only half answered the question . . . Can you answer it fully please . . . don't forget the bit about recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra for the 4FPS bit . . . will you still do that? . . . will you still recommend to people that paying the extra is a good move?
The question:
In light of the data presented to you in this thread do you still stand by your original statement and would seriously pay and recommend other people pay between £40-£50 extra to move from a 768MB GTX 460 to a 1024MB GTX 460 to gain an average extra 4FPS @ 1920x1200 with "eye-candy"?
If it's within budget and they plan to be gaming higher than 1680x1050, Yes.
Actually I have no idea why you're saying this. The anand benchmarks for the two cards were both run at the same rez - 1920 x 1200 - which is above 1680 x 1050.
So you must be saying that there's something those benchmarks are not telling us.
Like why one card is better for 16x8 and the other for 19x12, when the benchmarks use the higher rez for both cards and show little real difference...
Personally, looking at those benchmarks, I can't see any reason not to buy the 768mb card. So what am I missing?
Compared to anything other than the 768MB 460, the 1GB 460 is a fantastic bang for buck graphics card - simple as that. If you want the extra performance and the 1GB suits your budget, it's a great purchase. As games get more detailed and use more vram, the 1GB model will pull ahead. Why should people only consider the most bang for buck card out there? Should people also not bother considering 5850, 470, 5870, 480 etc etc just because the 768MB 460 is best bang for buck?
Op is obv on a budget.
so the answer isent it :
460 1gb Sli if have the money to spend > 460 768mb sli for a little lesser performance on a budget.
and he ask about watt too, well is thats a issue the sli 768 mb use less power too.
i personal wanted the 460 Hawk, but it got to go into the bin, after i saw just how much power it draws when that massive Oc
so the answer isent it :
460 1gb Sli if have the money to spend > 460 768mb sli for a little lesser performance on a budget.
and he ask about watt too, well is thats a issue the sli 768 mb use less power too.
i personal wanted the 460 Hawk, but it got to go into the bin, after i saw just how much power it draws when that massive Oc
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Hello Liampope
Looks like a bad case of diminishing returns if you ask me and compared to the 768MB model I'm not sure how anyone is justified in calling the 1024MB model "a great purchase"?
The only person who really needs to "Bulk-up" up technology today is the person who is taking a spaceship ride to mars and will have a problem getting any new technology delivered from the OcUK store!
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raikesi made this thread because he is considering a Geforce GTX 460 and was wondering if the extra £40-£45-£50 premium was worth paying for the 1024MB model? . . .
He could instead of the Geforce GTX 460 768MB model @ £129.99 choose from many other GPU's for sale that he felt would meet his personal needs . . . maybe he could consider paying a £75.00 premium and grab a Radeon HD 5850 1024MB @ £204.99 . . .
If you take those 11 games tested and average out the FPS the Radeon HD 5850 1024MB commands a "mighty" 9FPS advantage over the GTX 460 768MB
£75 premium for an average 9FPS advantage is whats know as "chronic" diminishing returns, a very bitter pill to swallow for people with more sense than money and "a great purchase" for people with more money than sense!
in a thread entitled "460 1gb and 768mb" I find the above statement a bit silly!
Looks like a bad case of diminishing returns if you ask me and compared to the 768MB model I'm not sure how anyone is justified in calling the 1024MB model "a great purchase"?
This is just another "literal" truth which is no better than advocating
- Someone buy a HexCore because as games get more processor intensive the six core processor will pull ahead
- Someone buy 8GB(2x4GB) of system memory because as games get more memory intensive the 8GB machine will pull ahead
The only person who really needs to "Bulk-up" up technology today is the person who is taking a spaceship ride to mars and will have a problem getting any new technology delivered from the OcUK store!
Most people that do not own a money tree or have some sense of value-for-money tend to gravitate towards hardware purchases that offer Bang-for-buck . . . the people that gobble up expensive, bad-value, diminishing returns items tend to be benchmarkers, e-slongers, money-tree owners, spacemen on an outward bound voyage to mars or simply +1 people that do not know any better and just follow the GroupThink herd without engaging their brain and examining the facts . . .
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I'm not sure anyone has said anything about the Geforce GTX 460 768MB being the only card people should consider?
raikesi made this thread because he is considering a Geforce GTX 460 and was wondering if the extra £40-£45-£50 premium was worth paying for the 1024MB model? . . .
He could instead of the Geforce GTX 460 768MB model @ £129.99 choose from many other GPU's for sale that he felt would meet his personal needs . . . maybe he could consider paying a £75.00 premium and grab a Radeon HD 5850 1024MB @ £204.99 . . .
If you take those 11 games tested and average out the FPS the Radeon HD 5850 1024MB commands a "mighty" 9FPS advantage over the GTX 460 768MB
£75 premium for an average 9FPS advantage is whats know as "chronic" diminishing returns, a very bitter pill to swallow for people with more sense than money and "a great purchase" for people with more money than sense!
Benchmarks vary and the extra rops would come in handy. It all comes down to whether money is top of the list. £100 yeah, £40...maybe not so for all.
I would love to see Big Wayne as a game show host, loadsa cash for the lucky winner! (j/king)
I would love to see Big Wayne as a game show host, loadsa cash for the lucky winner!
(j/king)
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they are telling you max , min average ?
not frame skip ,stutter , frame skip ,stutter , frame skip anytime the card reachs more than 768 memory
Hiya arc@css
When will the extra ROPs come in handy? . . . at what point in the distant future have you "speculated" that paying a premium for extra ROPs will become noticable in gameplay and outside of benchmarks?
My point is, in our economic society money is always top of the list, the problem seems to be the flawed reasoning some people come up with to "Justify" their purchases . . . of course everyone is entitled to spend his/her money as they please . . . the issue I have is when these same people come on a public forum and try to use this same flawed reasoning to convince others to spend extra money too!
They certainly do! . . . and so far in this thread we are only looking at one set of benchmarks . . . are you privy to another set of data that paints an entirely different picture? . . . if so could you link it up please as would be interesting to see how the results vary . . .
This is just another "literal" truth . . . just the same as saying to someone looking at a CPU for gaming that they should buy a HexCore as "the extra Cores would come in handy" . . .
When will the extra ROPs come in handy? . . . at what point in the distant future have you "speculated" that paying a premium for extra ROPs will become noticable in gameplay and outside of benchmarks?
Isn't money always top of the list? . . . don't most rational people with a finite amount of money always consider the value of something before parting with their cash? . . . there always have to be some "Value" to parting with money right? . . . even an e-Slonger has a perceived value by the fact he can waggle his slong on the forums, to him that is value . . . a +1 person gets the perceived value by having the peace-of-mind that he fits in with everyone else and is safe in the herd . . . a benchmarker gets his/her perceived value from the fact their hardware is faster than the "Jones" next door . . .
My point is, in our economic society money is always top of the list, the problem seems to be the flawed reasoning some people come up with to "Justify" their purchases . . . of course everyone is entitled to spend his/her money as they please . . . the issue I have is when these same people come on a public forum and try to use this same flawed reasoning to convince others to spend extra money too!
It's £40 to £50 difference to move from a GTX 460 768MB to a GTX 460 1024MB and the difference this premium brings is impossible to tell to anyone who isn't a benchmarker? . . . so tell me if a rational person who isn't named Montgomery Brewster and has finite amount of money is given the choice between two objects which they cannot tell the difference between themselves except for the pricetag what rational reason have they got to choose the more expensive item?
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