Everyone who has GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Please Read

Audioboxer · 29 Nov 2006 at 22:29

Hey,

I'm seperating this from my other topic as it should catch the eye of more people

If you look at my other topic: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8290258 you can see im having troubles with the asus p5w dh deluxe (975 chipset) and overclocking due to the GeIL's shoddy spd programming.

james32 had this problem as well and when he contacted GeIL they said

"I believe you have bought an old reversion of DDR2-800 ultra.
GeIL had updated all DDR2-800 SPD since June.
However, Your GeIL module is tested with DDR2-800 spec.
Where do you live? I will try to arrange RMA for you."

Supposedly GeIL fixed this issue (probably lies as I only bought my memory 3 weeks ago from overclockers)

But im asking if everyone who has this memory can use cpu-z

or a program such as SPDTool

To check their timings table. If anyone has a supposedly fixed table (as stated above GeIL claimed they put out a new revision) it would be handy if they could save a dump of their memory so I can reprogram mine!

A fixed table would be timings of 4-4-4-12 @ 400mhz im guessing, as thats whats required to successfuly use this memory with this board.

Cheers

kayone · 29 Nov 2006 at 22:39

I've got the Same Board & Memory. My SPD in cpu-z reads exactly the same too, even the Manufac date.

james32 · 29 Nov 2006 at 23:06

Only thing they changed since june is maxbandwith section by using that program
you have lol, SPD tool

that does nothing because your timings are
still the same in the SPD tables

max bandwith 5.5.5.18 at 333 so say if you wanna overclock
say over 400fsb your ram will be running @ cas 6 lol

and crosair does the exact same, so avoid there ram for the 975 chipset
even that expensive stuff PC8500.

ns400r · 30 Nov 2006 at 00:11

Exactly the same as James32 here.

ketma · 1 Dec 2006 at 21:18

I have the same readings in cpu-z as james32.

Cob · 1 Dec 2006 at 22:21

Mine's the exact same as James32's.

But this has already been deemed to be an ASUS problem and not a Geil problem. So stop blaming Geil and start blaming ASUS for having a crap BIOS.

1dmf · 1 Dec 2006 at 22:28

are you people saying avoid an ASUS Mobo if wanting to OC and use PC8500/9000 memory because the ASUS bios sucks and doesn't run the memory correctly?

ketma · 1 Dec 2006 at 22:44

Not really, we're just saying there is (currently) an issue with this RAM and the PW5 DH.

1dmf · 2 Dec 2006 at 03:02

phew - the only Mobo manufacturer i have on offer is Asus for what I need. and it's not that model so hopefully i'll be ok.

stinka · 2 Dec 2006 at 12:36

my readings are exactly the same as audioboxer
in cpu-z, im using said ram and a evga 680i

Cyber-Mav · 2 Dec 2006 at 12:44

1dmf said:
are you people saying avoid an ASUS Mobo if wanting to OC and use PC8500/9000 memory because the ASUS bios sucks and doesn't run the memory correctly?

combination of both really

FreeStream · 2 Dec 2006 at 22:18

Mines been working perfectly since day 1 :confused:

Now its sitting at 441mhz, 4-4-4-12 @ 2.15V in a Asus P5B Deluxe

Yummy

LoadsaMoney · 3 Dec 2006 at 15:20

Audioboxer said:

Same here on a Gigabyte DS4, working perfect at 4-4-4-12, had to set the timings manually.

Tom|Nbk · 3 Dec 2006 at 15:21

LoadsaMoney said:
Same here on a Gigabyte DS4.

Same here on the p5b deluxe had to set the timings manually its a limitation with the chipset (965) and not the boards them selves.

EVILCOSMOS · 3 Dec 2006 at 17:39

What the OP is referring to is that there is an FSB wall at around 360+ specific to the P5W DH combined with memory
(in this case the Geil) that have relaxed timings in their SPD's.

This 'wall' can only be passed by allowing the timings to be set automatically by the motherboard which refers to the SPD.
i.e. The P5W DH will not boot at 360+ FSB when manual timings are used and unfortunately the SPD yields timings of 5-6-6-18 .

This problem does not occur when memory with tighter SPD timimgs such as Cellshock or G.Skill are used.

P.S. Audioboxer I have the same timings in my SPD of my Geil RAM as james32. This is SPD revision 1.0

Yours is revision 1.2

Hope this helps sort out some of the confusion.

ketma · 3 Dec 2006 at 18:06

So from this and what Geil mention in the 1st post, it doesn't really matter what revision the SPD table is as the RAM is rated to 4-4-4-12 (on manual settings).

It seems the fault is with Asus and how it interprets the readings from the SPD table in the ram.

I've already contacted Asus re. this, wonder if they will have any comments...

EVILCOSMOS · 3 Dec 2006 at 18:12

ketma said:
It seems the fault is with Asus and how it interprets the readings from the SPD table in the ram.

Yeah it seems that that the mobo doesn't like something in the timings of loose memory.

james32 · 3 Dec 2006 at 18:24

EVILCOSMOS said:
What the OP is referring to is that there is an FSB wall at around 360+ specific to the P5W DH combined with memory
(in this case the Geil) that have relaxed timings in their SPD's.

This 'wall' can only be passed by allowing the timings to be set automatically by the motherboard which refers to the SPD.
i.e. The P5W DH will not boot at 360+ FSB when manual timings are used and unfortunately the SPD yields timings of 5-6-6-18 .

This problem does not occur when memory with tighter SPD timimgs such as Cellshock or G.Skill are used.

Hope this helps sort out some of the confusion.

The FSB wall, is on all Asus 975 chipset boards
P5W DH, P5W64 Workstation, Asus P5WDG2-WS

i came to the conclusion its the ram ICs Elpida & promos
that are the problem, along with poor SPD timings set to low values
for the micron, on some of the crosair range.

my cellshock ram is running @ 3.3.3.8 400fsb 1.1 with 2.2volts
on a P5W64 WS

and the above ram will bootup @ 1.8 volts @ 5.5.5.15 all auto and
theirs no mention of this in my SPD tables.

has anybody got a badaxe 1 or 2 with the geil memory on board?

ketma · 12 Dec 2006 at 16:26

Hi,

Can anyone please send me a SPD dump of the 1.2 revision modules using Thaiphoon and I'll update mine.

Thanks.

Emp.Man · 4 Apr 2007 at 15:16

Sorry to bump this topic but it seems better to ask here than start a new one. I couldn't get anywhere near 400fsb with the Geil RAM and a P5WDG2 Pro due to the problems other have had and I've only just worked up the motivation to do something about it. I've seen this Crucial RAM cheap elsewhere, should this solve the problem and get me a decent overclock?