DS4 Boot problem

Nick Xero

Nick Xero

Nick Xero

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Hi all.

I've just read the sticky regarding the Gigabyte mobos - i currently have just bought myself a system which is the following:

E6700
DS4
2x Geil 6400MHz 1GB
2x WD Caviar 16MB 250GB Drives
1x 1800XT
Coolermaster 650w PSU

seems to be that when i plug in the normal power connection, as well as the +12v connector, the mobo boots up, the cpu fan doesnt start, the monitor doesnt come on, and then the mobo shuts itself down, then restarts, then shuts down...and carries on in this cycle.

No beeps come from the motherboard either during this stage.

Can anyone advise please? I read something in the sticky saying that there was some issues with some of the DS4's being made. Has anyone had this?

I've put in for an RMA - but i'm concerned anyway.

cheers all
Nick
 
Have you cleared the cmos and tried swapping and using 1 stick at a time....if so the only other thing to try is another cheap stick of ddr2....strange but a few have come accross your problem but mine went fine.
 
sounds like a faulty board you have their

i fixed a pc simliar problems a few weeks ago
when 20 pin and 4 pin were plugged into board @ same time
it just shut off, but if i just stuck 20 pin it would spin cpu fan.

i replaced board and didnt see that problem again
i also had to replace the PSU.
 
My DS4 did that initially but reseating the processor and trying one stick of RAM somehow got round it. The first thing to do if/when you do get it going is to update the BIOS. This should stop it from re-occurring. It seems to be a problem with the F2 BIOS and some makes of RAM; BIOS F5 and F6 fix it.

Jonathan
 
Never had any probs with my board, im still on the BIOS that it shipped with to F3, does sound like it could be a faulty board though, im using a 20x pin PSU with a 24x pin adapter, and its all working fine, the CPU fan not spinning is normal, as mine did that, when i first switched on it just jerked, but it says in the manual, and also on the coolers box that you have to go into the BIOS and change it to PWM so it spins all the time, im using a freezer 7 pro though, but if your not getting a display or anything then it does sound like a mobo prob.
 
james32 said:
sounds like a faulty board you have their

i fixed a pc simliar problems a few weeks ago
when 20 pin and 4 pin were plugged into board @ same time
it just shut off, but if i just stuck 20 pin it would spin cpu fan.

i replaced board and didnt see that problem again
i also had to replace the PSU.
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yes - this is exactly it. its only when the 20 and 4 pin is plugged in at the same time. if its just the 20 pin plugged in, it boots fine without any problems (except graphics card)

i would test it with some cheap DDR2 RAM but dont have any to hand.

its plausable that it could be BIOS - and i havent reset the CMOS as of yet either.

Its definately not a PSU problem as i tried it with a separate 500w psu - and still got the same results.
 
I thought it wouldn't have powered on at all if the 4x pin for the CPU wasn't connected (or booted).

Your not plugging the 4x pin in with the 20x pin by chance are you, i.e into the same connector as you don't have a 24x pin.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Your not plugging the 4x pin in with the 20x pin by chance are you, i.e into the same connector as you don't have a 24x pin.
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The PSU has a 20x pin connector with a 4x pin hanging off, and then a separate 4x pin for the +12v connector.

Even when its just the 20x pin and the 4x +12 plugged in, the system cycles and doesnt boot.
 
Which of the TWO 4 pin connectors are you using to make the 20 pin connector into a 24 pin connector ?
 
Sounds like the well documented mem voltage problem to me.

The board gives 1.8v as default. If your mem needs more than that to boot then you get the on off problem.

For most pc6400 mem the default voltage is at least 1.9

Most early DS4 users got round this by buying a cheapo 256mb stick of ram to get a boot to the bios and then up the vram (+0.3 for 2.1v) save, shut down, swap in your 6400 sticks and you should be up and running.

Updating to the latest bios will help thereafter.

A lot of people (myself included) were lucky and got pc6400 ram that will run quite happily at 1.8v like my GSkill HZ, but there was a lot thet wouldn't.

Also I did find the F5 bios more stable than the F6 if that helps?

Hope you find the solution mate.

Steevo
 
whats all these different bios things? F3, F5, F6?? are there more? cant find a specific answer anywhere listing them and what they are... any1 care to explain plz?

ty :)

i only ask as im planning on using a DS4 in my first build :D
 
the problem is the board is not accepting the 12 volts to power
up, its like a surge, so the motherboard just powers of to protect the CPU

its usually caused by a faulty motherboard or PSU
as i have found in my case.

i replaced with new motherboard then moments later PSU died.

btw this wasn't a ds3, it was a pc i fixing wich was a p4
emachines, excact same symptoms as op described.
 
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Which DS4 'Sounds like the well documented mem voltage problem' would that be ?

My DS4 with Geil PC6400 memory (2x1GB) will boot up and run fine with 1.8v.

Which of the TWO 4 pin connectors are you using to make the 20 pin connector into a 24 pin connector ?
 
ns400r said:
Which DS4 'Sounds like the well documented mem voltage problem' would that be ?

My DS4 with Geil PC6400 memory (2x1GB) will boot up and run fine with 1.8v.

Which of the TWO 4 pin connectors are you using to make the 20 pin connector into a 24 pin connector ?
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Take a bit of time and read through the DS3, DS4, DS6 owners thread. :rolleyes:
 
ns400r said:
Which of the TWO 4 pin connectors are you using to make the 20 pin connector into a 24 pin connector ?
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the psu has a fat cable which has a 20 pin and 4 pin connector - they are distributed to make it impossible for the 4 pin to be used as anything else but to make the 24 pin.

then there's a separate 4 pin connector which is standalone from the fat cable, which is used for +12v.

Sounds like the well documented mem voltage problem to me.
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could quite possibly be. would the mobo boot without any RAM installed? as in would it get past the power on/off cycle?

interestingly enough before all this i powered it on without the cpu fan installed - and it booted all the way through til it shutdown to protect the cpu. this is why i dont think it could be a ram problem?
 
tuftyfella said:
whats all these different bios things? F3, F5, F6?? are there more? cant find a specific answer anywhere listing them and what they are... any1 care to explain plz?

ty :)

i only ask as im planning on using a DS4 in my first build :D
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you need to update to the f6 bios once you are up and running, if you install the gigabyte bios utility and follow the instructions on screen you should do it.
you need to update it to increase the functionality of the board
i.e. make it quad core compatible
 
Nick Xero said:
Hi all.

I've just read the sticky regarding the Gigabyte mobos - i currently have just bought myself a system which is the following:

E6700
DS4
2x Geil 6400MHz 1GB
2x WD Caviar 16MB 250GB Drives
1x 1800XT
Coolermaster 650w PSU

seems to be that when i plug in the normal power connection, as well as the +12v connector, the mobo boots up, the cpu fan doesnt start, the monitor doesnt come on, and then the mobo shuts itself down, then restarts, then shuts down...and carries on in this cycle.

No beeps come from the motherboard either during this stage.

Can anyone advise please? I read something in the sticky saying that there was some issues with some of the DS4's being made. Has anyone had this?

I've put in for an RMA - but i'm concerned anyway.

cheers all
Nick
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up the ram volts in the bios to 2.1 or 2.2
 
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