Torrent Problems

demon8991

demon8991

demon8991

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I sometimes download torrents.

But i cant seem to ever get above 20kb/s on any torrents anymore.

I have a 2meg connection and could always used to be able to fast download speed, a while back i played round with my wireless network card settings and router settings could i have enabled or disabled something that could have caused this?
 
More to the point, what ISP are you on?

Doubt any setting you could change would affect torrents like that, unless it was affecting everything else the same, other than port forwarding.
 
tolien said:
More to the point, what ISP are you on?

Doubt any setting you could change would affect torrents like that, unless it was affecting everything else the same, other than port forwarding.
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when i moved to a router i had to port forward because of the same problem, i easily get 230kbps on 2meg now!

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Im on Pipex 2mb, i use BitComet 0.63.

My router is Linksys WRT54G and my modem is a Westell 6000, i have the correct ports forwarded aswell.

I cant seem to figure out what it wrong its driving me insane!
 
Wasn't there some issue with trackers not liking BitComet, due to the way it prioritised other BitComet users?

Have you tried another client, like uTorrent?
 
Scottland said:
Your login wouldn't be @xtreme3.pipex.net would it?

They've just started P2P throttling on that pipe.
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No im on the @xtreme4.pipex.net

Out of interest why are they doing this throttling business surely its up to the user what they use their connection for, thats what we pay for.
 
demon8991 said:
No im on the @xtreme4.pipex.net

Out of interest why are they doing this throttling business surely its up to the user what they use their connection for, thats what we pay for.
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It looks like xtreme4 is also being throttled, and has been for some time. But as of Monday they've just started on xtreme3.

As to why, well they're trying to cut down traffic on their network, a large percentage of which is from P2P based applications, most of which are illegal* and hence an easy target I guess.

* By illegal, I don't meant the applications, just whats being downloaded.
 
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Make sure your ports are forwarded properly or go the easy option with upnp. I'm on Pipex and have had traffic shaping problems really. They shape me but its nothing I cna't deal with.
 
I schedule all my downloading for times when I'm not traffic shaped. And schedule all my browsing and game playing for the times I am shaped.

Saying that I have managed to break through the shaping with a very very busy torrent, ie 500 seeds and 3 peers. But I don't need to do that really, theres enough non shaped hours in the day for me to get what i want. Has to be some give, to my take.
 
here is a solution that worked last night for my mate on pipex (they are throttling p2p at 20k)

use utorrent or azureus as your client

make sure you turn packet encryption ON

his d/l rate went from 20 to 100k almost straightaway :)

until such times as they prioritise encrypted packets as low priority this should work

hope this helps
 
demon8991 said:
Out of interest why are they doing this throttling business surely its up to the user what they use their connection for, thats what we pay for.
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When ADSL was initially setup, it was designed for the majority of people who just do some web browsing, emails and a few downloads. Because of this, the networks are setup sharing a connection on a 50:1 ratio. This means that the 50 people connected will get a decent service for browsing. Most of the time, when looking at web pages, your connection is idle.

This 50:1 also handled people downloading files as no one downloaded 24/7.... until P2P and now Torrents appeared. This means that some greedy people download every film, MP3, Software on the planet hogging the pipe and seriously degrading their neighbour's connection quality.

Because of this, caps are now appearing on the heaviest usages. Most companies only apply these caps in the busiest times (i.e. 16:00 to 00:00 for example). So aim all your torrents to weird times in the morning, and you will probally find things will work better. :)


Caps are really just "stop gap" measures while the ISPs upgrade their networks. All the networks are going to need a serious boost soon as more and more Web TV, Web Radio, VOIP, Skype, etc is now appearing... so you will find things eventually get better over the next years... if the RIAA don't get you first. :D

Also note that VOIP, Skype, Web TV etc will need prioritising over the network to keep the quality high. It doesn't really matter that a download takes 10 times as long... but you will notice if the same limits appeared on VOIP/WebTV/etc :)
 
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Thanks for that, really helpfull.

Could the RIAA really catch people? I havnt heard any UK cases?

Surely they dont go for 'casual' users?
 
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If they do, they will, most likely, either do nothing or forward a complaint to your ISP. I don't think they are legally allowed to sue/prosecute people abroad. I may be wrong though. There's been UK cases with the British Phonographic Industry though. Only heavy users IIRC.
 
MAllen said:
Caps are really just "stop gap" measures while the ISPs upgrade their networks.
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Until Central prices drop (and it's highly unlikely to be this year), nothing's going to change.

demon8991 said:
Out of interest why are they doing this throttling business surely its up to the user what they use their connection for, thats what we pay for.
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What you're paying for is a 50:1 share. You're getting significantly more than that.
 
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