GTX 470/480 looks like a fail so some help please?

zoidy · 29 Mar 2010 at 17:45

It is strange ... I'm using W7 and the thought of doing a fresh install horrifies me! Yes I have a ghost back up but that's no good with changing drivers from one manufacturer to another, the ghost version has the Nvidia drivers in it. I'll wing it and see what happens.
Normally I delete the drivers, go through the folders looking for nvidia left overs then into the registry and work my way down the list seeing if there's anything untoward, then reboot, reinstall... that should be enough?
Failing that then an install will have to happen.

fizzle-187 · 29 Mar 2010 at 18:23

480 is faster than the 5870....

Zaim · 29 Mar 2010 at 18:30

I'd go for either a 5970 or 5850 x2
two of these
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-157-XF

or

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-153-XF

D-Ranged · 29 Mar 2010 at 19:09

kitch9 said:
I've got a ATI and a Nvidia card in my PC at the same time, both with running drivers......... Now what do I do?

Shall I call the driver police?

Seriously dude, modern OS's are fairly smart..... Smart enough to figure out not to try to use some insignificant old Nvidia driver files to power an ATI card anyways.

Could you give me more info on running and ATi and Nvidia card together please mate? Thats what i am planning to do but know nothing about it and how to do it.

kitch9 · 29 Mar 2010 at 19:34

D-Ranged said:
Could you give me more info on running and ATi and Nvidia card together please mate? Thats what i am planning to do but know nothing about it and how to do it.

Nvidia for physx I take it?

BigRazer93 · 29 Mar 2010 at 20:38

fizzle-187 said:
480 is faster than the 5870....

Yes that is true, and isn't worth the price over the 5870.

Zaim · 29 Mar 2010 at 20:47

Ben-Irvine93 said:
Yes that is true, and isn't worth the price over the 5870.

And the big difference in heat and power

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783&p=19

zoidy · 29 Mar 2010 at 20:58

£ for £ the 2X5850 is my best option so I've ordered elsewhere these two cards

1GB XFX HD 5850 XXX, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 4500MHz GDDR5, GPU 755MHz, 1440 Cores

Hope I'm impressed

tommythetim · 29 Mar 2010 at 21:03

rancid_elf said:
As for the physx. I do not use the hack method I just get a version of teh drivers that pre-date the blockage form nVidia.

You will be missing out on physx effects, for example there would be no APEX Turbulence(smoke) from the jetpack in darkvoid with the old drivers.

D-Ranged said:
Could you give me more info on running and ATi and Nvidia card together please mate? Thats what i am planning to do but know nothing about it and how to do it.

Easy to do, it will take about 5 mins and away you go. You can get info and files here.
http://physxinfo.com/news/942/hybrid-physx-mod-1-02-195-xx-drivers-and-win-xp-support/
Note, you should stick with the 196.21 drivers just now until they make a proper fix for the new drivers.

Zaim · 29 Mar 2010 at 21:53

zoidy said:
£ for £ the 2X5850 is my best option so I've ordered elsewhere these two cards

1GB XFX HD 5850 XXX, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 4500MHz GDDR5, GPU 755MHz, 1440 Cores

Hope I'm impressed

impressed you would be, review for the 5850x2 is gr8

BigRazer93 · 29 Mar 2010 at 22:11

Yep, they are a good sweet spot the 5850's in crossfire, up there with the 5970, beating it in most cases

kitch9 · 29 Mar 2010 at 22:26

tommythetim said:
You will be missing out on physx effects, for example there would be no smoke coming from the jetpack in darkvoid with the old drivers.

Easy to do, it will take about 5 mins and away you go. You can get info and files here.
http://physxinfo.com/news/942/hybrid-physx-mod-1-02-195-xx-drivers-and-win-xp-support/
Note, you should stick with the 196.21 drivers just now until they make a proper fix for the new drivers.

Proper fix is done......

http://physxinfo.com/news/2643/hybrid-physx-197-xx-drivers-and-physx-performance-fix/

No extended desktop needed or anything with the latest 197.15 drivers. Tested it myself.

MameFX · 29 Mar 2010 at 22:29

Xtreme G 197.25 are the best drivers i have used in a long time,better than the 15.

zoidy · 29 Mar 2010 at 22:59

Wanna thank you all for answering and helping me today without taking this thread into the "dark place" of NV Vs Ati.

Actually I'm 500 quid poorer grrrrrr lol

Give your selves a pat on the back - this is what the forums all about - helping each other. Thx Chaps!

kylew · 29 Mar 2010 at 23:07

zoidy said:
Wanna thank you all for answering and helping me today without taking this thread into the "dark place" of NV Vs Ati.

Actually I'm 500 quid poorer grrrrrr lol

Give your selves a pat on the back - this is what the forums all about - helping each other. Thx Chaps!

£500?

Guessing that means 5850 crossfire then?

zoidy · 29 Mar 2010 at 23:32

zoidy · 30 Mar 2010 at 14:38

Cards came today - tried BFBC2 without any real issues.
Wondering if there's any tweaks I should now carry out in BIOS etc?
Thanks again lads - looks like the cards are a winner

Freddie1980 · 30 Mar 2010 at 15:43

zoidy said:
Cards came today - tried BFBC2 without any real issues.
Wondering if there's any tweaks I should now carry out in BIOS etc?
Thanks again lads - looks like the cards are a winner

Just read up on overclocking those bad boys and you will end up with two cards that not only preform better then a single HD5970 but are faster then 2x HD5870 in crossfire!

Bodom · 30 Mar 2010 at 16:04

kitch9 said:
I've got a ATI and a Nvidia card in my PC at the same time, both with running drivers......... Now what do I do?

Shall I call the driver police?

Seriously dude, modern OS's are fairly smart..... Smart enough to figure out not to try to use some insignificant old Nvidia driver files to power an ATI card anyways.

Not true i use W7 and i got my replacment gtx280 back last week the ATI driver for my 5770 was a pain in the ass to uninstall even driver sweeper didant get rid of everything
My replacment 280 was performing prity crap at first thought they had sent me a fualty card till i noticed some ATI process still running in the back ground manualy deleted it now my 280 works fine

zoidy · 30 Mar 2010 at 17:47

Well I uninstalled and just installed the 10-3 W7 64Bit pack and everything went fine...
Actually if I'm honest this unnerved me a bit because there was no issues I thought there was a problem lol - I went through the system menu looking for problems hehe

To all you NV fanboys - I understand your resentment to change... change is not nice, especially when you've been top of the Graphics card heap for so long. But trust this unbiased opinion of mine... I put my two 5850's into my rig, installed the drivers, played several games to test the system out and it works flawlessly, in fact I'd give the swap from NV to ATi 10 out of 10.

ATI HAVE GOT WHAT IT TAKES>>> I'M GLAD I TOOK THE GAMBLE and ALSO SAVED MYSELF SOME CASH. IF YOU ARE THINKING OF A NEW CARD(S) TRUST ME WHEN I SAY ATi NOW HAVE AN OPTION FOR YOU.