Wenger wants refs to ban divers

I read that earlier & couldn't believe he actually had the balls to make a statement about it, having never seen it happen before;)

This quote confuses me a bit though:
"I can say that when my team are not involved I am 100% against it."
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Does that mean he thinks it's ok for his players to do it?:)
 
Arsene is definatly right i remember a couple of seasons ago when Pires was clearly fouled by a Pompey player and he was then subject to diving acusations. Its about time they sorted out the real divers and stop picking on my team. Arsenal would never dive :rolleyes:

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I agree totally, the sooner these diving cheats are dealt with, the better and before the smart 'arris' start, that means everyone.
 
There's already a rule in place so that refs can book divers. The problem is, that they can't always tell during a fast-paced game on a slippery surface what is a dive, and what isn't. Sometimes in the penalty area especially, you get a situation where a it should be neither a penalty nor a booking for diving, e.g. when there is minimal contact, or a player slips etc.

In my opinion the responsibility lies with the FA in terms of any change in approach, not with the referees. The FA need to come out and impose bans retrospectively using video evidence, this would mean that players could still be punished even if they 'got away with it' during a match. I mean take a situation like Wednesday, there was maybe 10mins(?) left in the game so SWP wasn't bothered about picking up a yellow card - he had little to lose by taking a tumble. If he had the threat of suspension being imposed after the game, however, he might have thought twice about it.

edit: Question for you all: If England were to win the world cup, the winning goal coming from a penalty based on a dive by an Englishman, how would you feel? Foreigners and Brazil fans ;) obviously needn't answer this :)
 
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Question for you all: If England were to win the world cup, the winning goal coming from a penalty based on a dive by an Englishman, how would you feel?
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About twice as happy as when Owen did it v Argentina;)
 
Rugby takes retroactive punishments against players for violence and the game is the better for it. I would wholly agree with the FA scrutinising every match in the top two divisions and banning players for diving. It marrs the game and undermines the reputation of players clubs and the game. The asymetric rules allow for attacking players to get away with pratically anything safe in the knowledge should they be booked they can "pull back" from likely yellow card situations without blunting there efficacy. Meanwhile defenders are hampered greatly by a yellow card reducing their ability to defend and risk punishing their team heavily. One of the attackers cheats should be blunted and retroactive punishment for diving is just the tool to do that.
 
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"I can say that when my team are not involved I am 100% against it."

This statement confuses me greatly. :eek:

It's down to players to realise that diving not only gives them a bad name, but if they actually do receive a bad tackle they may get booked for appearing to make a dive when they really didn't. What was that story about the boy who cried wolf? :D
 
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Tony Soprano said:
"I can say that when my team are not involved I am 100% against it."

This statement confuses me greatly. :eek:
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I watched the video of the interview and it was said with tongue firmly in cheek. He was very aware of the Pires incident which gets brought up everytime diving is.

He was also saying it's natural to "look the other way" when you're own team do it, as the classic Wenger line is always "I didn't see the incident, so cannot comment!"
 
It's true you tend to look the other way when it's one of your players does it and then conveniently forget and take the moral highground when it's an opposition player. I don't really think that any of the top 5 or 6 clubs can claim to be any cleaner than each other really, they all have players that do it and players that don't the only reason certain players get flagged up is the extravagance of a particular dive.

Looking at it objectively then i'd say something needs to be done fairly soon about it as it's an embarassment to the club and to the game and even if it's a united player then much as it might gall me action should be taken against them.

Of course we haven't played yet this weekend so in a couple of hours time just asfter we've won 1-0 after a penalty from a dive in the 89th minute I'll probably edit this post quite heavily ;)
 
people diving shows just how much we need a 4th assistant who can watch the replay then be asked by the ref to make the decision just like in rugby
 
It shows what a mess football has become because of an excess of money and corruption. Cheating and diving is becoming cpmmon place in the game. None more so than this weekend when Drogber admitted handling for one of the goals against City. He allegedley said in another interview that he goes to ground to gain an advantage.

Every club throughout the premiership has cheats. Problem is that a few years ago diving and cheating was frowned upon and condemend. Nowadays it's almost accepted as a legitimate part of the game
 
Interesting discussion on the radio about Sin Bins and how they work in Rugby League. They equate the 10 mins being down one man the equivelant to a penalty Kick. The dynamics of football are different and loosing a player for 10 mins may not actually make that much difference as many 10v11 matches have shown.

Personally I would like to see cluns take more responsibility for their players. Anyone who is found to have influenced the game by deliberate diving, cheating, fouling should have their team hit with big fines. Any more than three occasions and they should start deducting points
 
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