Mighty Mini-ITX HTPC Build

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Just finished my latest build using the BM648 and Zotac 9300 ITX Motherboard that have recently been added to OCUK. It replaces a Dell Inspiron 530s that is now going to my brother at university. I made sure to snap some pictures of the build as I am confident that this combo will become very popular. ;)

Complete Spec:
In-Win BM648 Case with 120W Power Supply
Intel E5200
Zotac 9300-ITX WiFi
4GB 800MHz OCZ RAM
1TB WD Green Power Drive
LG Blu-Ray \ HD-DVD Drive
WinFast PxDVR3200H TV Card
Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

A shot of all the components for the build; plus a few Blu-Ray movies to get my collection started.
BM648Components.jpg


Contents of the Zotac motherboard box.
Zotac9300BoxContents.jpg


Closeup of the board with the CPU and optional WiFi board installed.
Zotac9300Motherboard.jpg


I took it apart again today because the temps were slightly worrying; I found out why when I took off the Zotac heatsink. Far too much paste.
ZotacChipsetStockPaste.jpg


Cleaned that all off and applied a thin layer of MX-2, brought the load temperatures down to an acceptable level.
ZotacChipsetClean.jpg


All of the motherboard components installed. I highly recommend plugging in the SATA cables before installing the PCI card, its a bit difficult to get your fingers in afterward. For importantly, make sure that the front panel audio is hooked up as well, the connector is squeezed between the WiFi and PCI card.
Zotac9300MotherboardComponentsInstalled.jpg


Here is the BM648 case. I have installed the 3.5 hard disk at the bottom of the case in the detachable hard disk cage. Makes installing it very easy. I also took the liberty of replacing the top fan as well.
BM648CaseFanHardDiskInstalled.jpg


Here is the complete build installed into the case. I have tried to tidy up the cables as best I can; a little difficult with the limited space. The TV card just about fits. ;)
BM648BuildCompleteInternal.jpg


Here is the BM648 next to the Dell 530s (slimline mATX) and an Akasa Eclipse.
BM648vs530svsEclipse.jpg


Side comparison between the BM648 and Dell 530s (did not want to pull the Akasa out :p)
BM648vs530sSide.jpg


Final shot of it's new home; my desk.
MonitorSetupBM648.jpg


Things to note:
  • The case is very well thought out, most of the panels are detachable and there are a number of small aspects which greatly assist installation. For example, over the PCI brackets there is a little hinged section which gives you a few centimetres of room when installing the cards. Without this, there would have been absolutely no way that the TV card would have gone in. :D
  • The case does take a full 5.25" optical drive, but it severely limits the headroom for the CPU cooler. The stock low profile Intel cooler that shipped with E5200 fits perfectly, but the Arctic Cooler Freezer 7 Low Profile that I tried was too tall.
  • Despite the PSU having a small 40mm fan, it is barely audible compared to the stock Intel CPU cooler. I had heard that the stock 80mm case fan was noisy, which I why I replaced it during the build.

Final Stats:

Temperatures:
  • Stock Paste
    With stock paste on the CPU and GPU, both topped out at just over 70 degrees. The CPU idled at about 40 degrees and the GPU at roughly 55 degrees
  • MX-2 Paste and Cable Tidy
    With my reapplication of MX-2 to both the CPU and GPU, the CPU still idles at around 40 degrees, but the GPU has decreased to 50 degrees. More importantly, the load temperatures have improved dramatically. I struggle to get either to push past the 60 degree mark.
  • Hard Disk
    The hard disk temperature is fairly constant at around 35 - 40 degrees.

CPU Usage:
When using Media Center or playing a Blu-Ray, the CPU rarely goes above 20% utilisation.

Power Usage:
~50W idle, ~60W when playing a Blu-Ray and tops out at ~80W when first booting up.

Noise
The Intel cooler does start to spin up when watching a Blu-Ray and it can become noticeable, but it is nowhere near as bad as the Dell 530s.

If you have any questions, just ask. :D
 
Nice work and good review!

Got my intel ITX board (would love that Zotac :() and an e7200 to go in this. Looks like it'll be a snug fit but at least it allows the 5.25" drive which is what i need.

gt
 
Ah man I read some reviews for this board and I am very impressed.

I'd love to grab one and slap in an 4850 just to see what it can do.

This might make a perfect little lan rig.
 
Nice build Total-Game!
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I'm really impressed by this combination of case/board for use as an HTPC. I already have a HTPC based on an mATX board but I'd love to downsize it to mITX with a In-Win BM648 Case & Zotac 9300-ITX setup.

My existing setup:

Intel E6420 Core2Duo
Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD
2GB DDR PC6400
ATi Radeon 3450
LG HDDVD/Bluray Drive

How does the onboard graphics compare to a dedicated card such as a low profile version of a ATi 3450? If a dedicated graphics card is a better solution is there enough power to run one from the 120watt PSU included with the case? Or is it a better solution to use the onboard graphics and upgrade the RAM from 2GB - 4GB even though Vista x86 can only use 3.5GB max.
 
is it possible to get a mini-ninja scythe cpu fan in there?

EDIT: second Q. If you didnt install a DVD writer could you have 2x 3.5" HDD (one in the dvd bay) and 1 x 2.5" HDD?
 
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Thanks for all the comments. I am really pleased with the build. :D

How does the onboard graphics compare to a dedicated card such as a low profile version of a ATi 3450?
I did find some benchmarks using 3DMark05/06 which put the 9300 IGP slightly above the discrete 3450 256MB. In terms of actual usage, the 9300 IGP has absolutely no trouble with Blu-ray and other high-def video. I have not tried out any games on it yet, but I should imagine that it will fair very well for an IGP.

If a dedicated graphics card is a better solution is there enough power to run one from the 120watt PSU included with the case?
I think that most low profile graphics card are not going to give much of an improvement (if any) over the IGP.

is it a better solution to use the onboard graphics and upgrade the RAM from 2GB - 4GB even though Vista x86 can only use 3.5GB max.
I put 4GB in my build just to future proof it a little. By default, the 9300 IGP uses 256MB of memory, but I think it can be increased to 512MB in the BIOS.

is it possible to get a mini-ninja scythe cpu fan in there?
No chance. The whole case is only 110mm wide and the mini-ninja is 115mm tall. If you are making use of the 5.25" drive bay, then the only CPU coolers that will fit seem to be the stock low profile Intel cooler and the Silverstone NT07-775. If you removed the 5.25" drive bay harness completely, you might be able to install a cooler which was about 80mm high.

EDIT: second Q. If you didnt install a DVD writer could you have 2x 3.5" HDD (one in the dvd bay) and 1 x 2.5" HDD?

Yup. You can have either of:

1 x Full Size 5.25" Drive
1 x 3.5" Drive
1 x 2.5" Drive

-OR-

1 x Slim 5.25" Drive
2 x 3.5" Drive (One Internal, One External)
1 x 2.5" Drive

The blanking plates and harness for both of these are included in the box. Unfortunately the box does not include a full drive bay cover, so if you are not using a 5.25" drive, you will have to live with a hole in the front.
 
I'm not sure but the Scythe SHURIKEN may well be small enough. Well at least I hope it will :confused:
The bad news is it will not fit if you want to use a full size 5.25" drive.

I tried the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Low Profile, which is 53mm tall (Shuriken is 63mm). It would not fit with the 5.25" drive which I why I resorted to using the stock Intel cooler. I do not know exactly how tall that is, but I would guess in the region of 45mm. I am going to be having a look for a different cooler, the stock Intel isn't exactly the quietest thing in the world. :(

Just curious why you went with 32bit Vista opposed to 64bit when you have 4Gb of RAM?
Mainly because of the TV card. I tried a number of different TV cards in my 64bit machine, but most still have underlying driver problems. I thought I would save myself some hassle by sticking with 32bit for the time being.

That and the extra memory is probably beneficial in getting the most out of the IGP.

Nice, how much did this set you back?
I think the total was in the region of £530 (without including the TV card, which was left over from a previous build).
 
I'm liking this a lot. Giving serious consideration to selling some parts of my "gaming rig" (hate that phrase :p) and moving to this.

Did you ever consider this motherboard? That would mean going AMD.

http://www.jwele.com/motherboard_detail.php?419

I didn't realise it was AMD cpu yesterday lol, its cheaper, found it at £95 but that would mean I would need to buy a new cpu, so i guess the zotac is the only option really?
 
looks very nice Total-Game, out of interest, what applications have you got running on it? Is the machine mainly for playing media? will you be running anything like media portal on it?
 
Did you ever consider this motherboard? That would mean going AMD.

http://www.jwele.com/motherboard_detail.php?419

I didn't realise it was AMD cpu yesterday lol, its cheaper, found it at £95 but that would mean I would need to buy a new cpu, so i guess the zotac is the only option really?

I did consider it; along with the Intel DG45FC and Zotac 8200 WiFi. I wanted to minimise power usage and temperatures; but was looking for a board which could play Blu-Ray with a native HDMI port and at least a PCIe x1 slot (for the TV card). Although AMD have a range of energy efficient processors specifically designed for HTPC builds, they still use more operational power than the likes of an E5200. As such, I was really wanted a board for Intel processors.

AMD Processors

MINIX 780G-SP128MB
It is a very nice motherboard and well featured. However, the chipset is relatively power hungry and the heatsink is not quite up to the task. Newer boards ship with an additional fan attachement to keep the temperatures reasonable in cases with poor airflow (virtually every ITX case there is). It is also stuck with using SODIMM memory to save board space.

Zotac 8200
The Zotac 8200 is pretty good, very close to the 780G in terms of performance. Unfortunately, the board does not have a native HDMI port and I could not find anywhere that had stock of this board.

Intel Processors

Intel DG45FC
The Intel 'Flycreek' is a very nice board, had a hard time choosing between this and the 9300. It scores very well in image quality tests, but the CPU utilisation is relatively high when playing back Blu-Ray (although it should still be able to play movies without any stuttering or slowdown).

Zotac 9300
The Zotac 9300 has everything going for it; the combination of the Intel processor and new chipset is very power efficient. Although the power usage is usually a few watts more than the Intel board, due to the significanly lower CPU utilisation during Blu-Ray playback, you can expect lower tempertures and power usage while watching. It is slightly more expensive than the Intel board, but only by roughly £20.

looks very nice Total-Game, out of interest, what applications have you got running on it? Is the machine mainly for playing media? will you be running anything like media portal on it?

The machine is mainly for playing media, particularly Blu-Ray movies. It also acts as my PVR box, which I why I was so intent to minimising power usage and temperatures; it will be on 24/7. It is currently just running Vista Media Centre, with all the media stored in the shared public directory to enable access from any PC on the network.

Total, is it the drive depth or length that is the issue as I have a stubby DVD writer spare.
Both as it were. The depth of the drive only gives around 50mm of space above the motherboard, the bottom of the drive is not far above the motherboard backplate. Although the LG drive is longer than a normal DVD drive, it completely covers the CPU cooler. Even the shortest of DVD drives is going to cover about half.
 
Both as it were. The depth of the drive only gives around 50mm of space above the motherboard, the bottom of the drive is not far above the motherboard backplate.
Nice comparison.

I agree with all the sentiments - if the Zotac had been out when i bought the Flycreek it would have been the one i'd chosen.

Also, like you say, the space is limited.

My cpu idles around 57c, the MCH around 55c and the ICH reaches 100c so i'll be heatsinking the ICH and (assuming i can fit a waterblock in the limited space) making a mini radbox for the setup. That should control temps and hopefully reduce the noise produced by the intel stock cooler.

gt
 
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