Iiyama XB2779QS or Dell U2713HM for gaming?

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The XB2779QS and U2713HM are currently priced at £432 and £440 respectively.

I have a DGM 27" IPS at the moment but it's already been replaced by OcUK (under warranty) once already. It has a dozen or more dead pixels and I am concerned that it's only a matter of time before something else goes wrong with it. So I am looking at getting the Iiyama or Dell as a replacement.

I want it for gaming (Tomb Raider, Skyrim, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 etc.) and web browsing.

I am after your opinions/advice please.
 
I'm in the same boat with my Hazro HZ27WD-V2, I haven't had the guts to return it yet though. No insurance to get it to OCUK, if its smashed, it won't be covered.

Anywhoo...I'd be more tempted to get the XB2779QS. Its an updated panel and the finish, in my opinion is far superior. I've heard good things about the Dell but its getting a little outdated now, and the caked on Anti-Glare on it is a game changer for me.

If you want vibrance, speed and a beautiful looking screen, go for the Iiyama. If you want tried, tested quality with the assurance of the biggest monitor brand in the world, go Dell.
 
Thanks Djxinator.
So that's 1 vote for the Iiyama which was the one I was leaning towards until I saw the customer review talking about dead pixels. I just don't want to end up with another screen with the same quality issues as Hazro/DGM.

I had a Hazro before the DGM. It died after 3 weeks which is why I bought the DGM. That lasted a few months before it died and OcUK replaced it.
 
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You'll get dead pixels with any monitor brand. Its a part of the manufacturing process.
They all use either LG or Samsung Panels in most cases, so whichever brand gets shipped a bad batch gets the bad rep!

Look at their dead pixel policy. Dell's I beleive is quite good as is Iiyama's.

EDIT - Iiyama are working towards a highly reputable status as a Monitor brand at the moment. I'm sat here in the office with 2x 27 inch Iiyama Prolites for example. Whoever heard of AOC a few years ago? I used to know Samsung, Dell, LG and HP...AOC didn't even exist. Now they're huge! Iiyama I beleive are cut from a very similar cloth and are in a similar position to AOC. Think of it this way. In F1 you have the factory teams like Ferrari and Mclaren, these are the Dells, Samsungs, HPs. You have the big brand teams like Red Bull Ferrari, these are the AOC's, the Iiyama's. Then you have the privateers, these are the DGMs and the Hazros. Quite often you'll see the lesser, Non-factory teams keep up and even beat the Factory teams. The Privateers always remain the same...not worth an investment.
 
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Thanks again Djxinator. You make some very good points.

Thanks Stuie but it has to be 27" IPS and 2560x1440. Dual screen gaming does not appeal to me. Neither does 1080p. I briefly considered the Asus PB278Q until I realised that it uses PWM for screen dimming and being a migraine sufferer I decided not to take the risk.
 
I've ordered the Iiyama XB2779QS.

All of the reviews seemed pretty good.
When tested, the response times are okay for an IPS screen. It also returned a static contrast ratio of 1150:1 compared 475:1 on the DGM so I am hoping that the blacks will look a bit deeper on the Iiyama.
Also it means that any dead pixels will be easier to spot than they are on my DGM :(

Thanks Djxinator and Stuie for your suggestions and advice.
 
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wapcatlet said:
I've ordered the Iiyama XB2779QS.

All of the reviews seemed pretty good.
When tested, the response times are okay for an IPS screen. It also returned a static contrast ratio of 1150:1 compared 475:1 on the DGM so I am hoping that the blacks will look a bit deeper on the Iiyama.
Also it means that any dead pixels will be easier to spot than they are on my DGM :(

Thanks Djxinator and Stuie for your suggestions and advice.
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What are you going to do with your DGM then?
 
I always like to have a spare "fallback" monitor just in case.
I gave away my previous spare monitor last week - A Hanns G 28" 1920x1200 TN screen. So the DGM will take its place in my cupboard, next to my fallback GPU - A Radeon 6950 :)
 
Can you post back on here to tell me how it is in comparison to both the DGM and the Hazro? Did you buy the QS-S or the standard S (One has a Silver/Black Bez the other plain matte black)
 
NickOw said:
Am looking at a new monitor as well and am interested in the panel coating of the screen, is it gloss or has an antiglare coating, cant seem to find the info anywhere, cheers
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It's glossy, can be reflective in a bright room.

It's not as glossy as the Samsung S27905D though!
 
Lakai_ said:
It's glossy, can be reflective in a bright room.

It's not as glossy as the Samsung S27905D though!
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Excellent, thanks for the heads up, would you recommend the monitor now you have had chance to enjoy it? Am after a glossy screen (already have one thats 21inch but want bigger replacement) and its hard to always find panel coating info

Cheers
 
NickOw said:
Excellent, thanks for the heads up, would you recommend the monitor now you have had chance to enjoy it? Am after a glossy screen (already have one thats 21inch but want bigger replacement) and its hard to always find panel coating info

Cheers
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I've actually sent my iiyama back and received a full refund. It had severe backlight bleeding so I had to return it (I mean REALLY bad bleeding, couldn't even watch films with well lit scenes).

You could be lucky though and get a decent panel which will make the iiyama a beautiful monitor to have. Solid base, stunning bezel, very decent.

I never actually intended on buying the Samsung S27905D, but after the fault with the iiyama I had to change over, and paid a more premium price for the PLS display in the Samsungs (Which by the way, have superb uniformity, almost no-backlight bleed at all).

I'm sure you'll get a decent panel though, don't be too worried! Just need to accept the fact that in the IPS/PLS world, it's a bit of a lottery to get a decent panel with minimal backlight bleed.
 
Djxinator said:
Can you post back on here to tell me how it is in comparison to both the DGM and the Hazro? Did you buy the QS-S or the standard S (One has a Silver/Black Bez the other plain matte black)
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I can only see one model available at OcUK - the XB2779QS-S.
That's the one I ordered.
I will let you know how it compares with the DGM. I don't have the Hazro anymore but I do have some memories of it. (Mainly bad unfortunately.)
 
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Lakai_ said:
I've actually sent my iiyama back and received a full refund. It had severe backlight bleeding so I had to return it (I mean REALLY bad bleeding, couldn't even watch films with well lit scenes).
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Sorry to read about your experience with the Iiyama Lakai.

I did see a comment in one of the reviews where they mentioned the backlight bleed but they partly blamed it on the 100% brightness that it gets shipped with. They said with the brightness turned down to a sensible level they hardly noticed it.

Like you said... I might be lucky. If not then it will have to go back.
There was a time when you could pay that bit extra and go for a Dell, knowing that it would be perfect. Sadly those days are gone. Dell seems to suffer from the same quality control issues as all of the other manufacturers now :(
 
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Lakai_ said:
I've actually sent my iiyama back and received a full refund. It had severe backlight bleeding so I had to return it (I mean REALLY bad bleeding, couldn't even watch films with well lit scenes).

You could be lucky though and get a decent panel which will make the iiyama a beautiful monitor to have. Solid base, stunning bezel, very decent.

I'm sure you'll get a decent panel though, don't be too worried! Just need to accept the fact that in the IPS/PLS world, it's a bit of a lottery to get a decent panel with minimal backlight bleed.
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Sadly you were right Lakai :(
The monitor arrived and it was obvious as soon as I turned it on. The backlight bleed was very noticeable, even in a well lit room. I have turned the brightness down from 80 to 20 which helped a bit but it's still quite bad. I spent a couple of hours on it last night trying to convince myself that I could live with it but I don't think I can.
It looks even worse in a darkened room (obviously). I'm gutted because the contrast ratio is loads better than my old DGM. Dark scenes are much improved (in the areas where there is no backlight bleed).

The question is, do I try swapping it for another one and hope I get lucky or do I spend the extra and go for a Samsung?
 
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Sadly you were right Lakai :(
The monitor arrived and it was obvious as soon as I turned it on. The backlight bleed was very noticeable, even in a well lit room. I have turned the brightness down from 80 to 20 which helped a bit but it's still quite bad. I spent a couple of hours on it last night trying to convince myself that I could live with it but I don't think I can.
It looks even worse in a darkened room (obviously). I'm gutted because the contrast ratio is loads better than my old DGM. Dark scenes are much improved (in the areas where there is no backlight bleed).

The question is, do I try swapping it for another one and hope I get lucky or do I spend the extra and go for a Samsung?
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Well, firstly I'm sorry to hear about your monitor but if you do have the money for a Samsung, and can live without an audio out jack & USB 3.0...then go for the Samsung.

The Samsung I received has extremely minimal backlight bleed, cannot notice it unless you press your face against the monitor and look down. I might have been lucky, but it's pretty spot on. You'd expect it to be at the 600+ price range.

Also to keep your mind at ease, Samsung promise at least 90% uniformity level for the backlight, which is decent.

I've been using my Samsung 1 week now for Movies, TV, Browsing and Gaming on the PS4 (Need for Speed Rivals = Fast paced game) and it's pretty gob-smacking.

I was never too sure about getting a replacement for my iiyama because if that particular monitor is bad, then the whole batch could be bad this leads to time and effort wasted returning it only to get another one that's the same and repeating again. #nightmare

P.S.

I went for the Glossy/Reflective version of the Samsung - Reason being it provides a deeper, inky black, almost feels painted on type colour which you cannot achieve with Matte finished screens with serious contrast saturation. BUT it's worth noting that I cant really notice the reflection because I use my PC in a very dim lit room...If you used this monitor in an office, it would basically be a mirror.

I hope you find the right monitor soon, and that this message is not too late in your decision making! Do not settle for backlight bleeding, it's not supposed to be noticeable when you spend serious amount of money.
 
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I am driving over to the OcUK store tomorrow (Christmas Eve) to swap the monitor. The RMA has been authorised.
If they were willing to unbox a new Iiyama and let me check it before I make a decision then that would be ideal. I doubt that they will do that so I think I might have to play safe and go for the Samsung S27B970D instead.

It's a shame because looking at the contrast/brightness tests in the reviews, the contrast levels are better on the Iiyama than the Samsung.

Thanks for the advice Lakai :)
 
wapcatlet said:
I am driving over to the OcUK store tomorrow (Christmas Eve) to swap the monitor. The RMA has been authorised.
If they were willing to unbox a new Iiyama and let me check it before I make a decision then that would be ideal. I doubt that they will do that so I think I might have to play safe and go for the Samsung S27B970D instead.

It's a shame because looking at the contrast/brightness tests in the reviews, the contrast levels are better on the Iiyama than the Samsung.

Thanks for the advice Lakai :)
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You're very welcome!

Just make sure you're going to use the Samsung in a very dim-lit room for it not to be too reflective.

If you're room isn't a cave suitable for Batman, then I suggest getting the Matte version.

Merry Christmas :)
 
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