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I think they're a good thing, but I don't get road rage and am quite patient.

It might be a different story if I'm running late for work and they're slowing me down. I think on balance they're good, but I'd still not want one on my car if I were 17!
 
kitkat9933 said:
£2000 that's cheap! When I passed in 2009, mine was £3500 on a £1000 2001 pug 206! And that wss using every trick in the book.
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Wow, I got my first year insurance on a 1.5 year old fiesta zetec for £700 and thought that was a bit much really. I was 21 though, my last premium for the car was £385 after 3/4 years so saw reductions of about £100pa
 
My insurance was over £2k when I passed back in 2007.. I wouldn't want to think what it would be now days.

With regards to P plates, it's a tricky one. I'd personally say I wouldn't want people to display them, given it makes most other drivers act like they are tools.
 
I remember having to avoid some ridiculous manoeuvres when I was learning because people would see the L plates. Some seem happy to risk their life - and other people's - just to overtake a learner, often way over the speed limit.
 
Jamesyboyjim said:
Congratulations to your daughter!

But this thread has got me thinking.

Should new drivers be forced to display P plates on their car?

I've seen some terrible driving from people who look as though they are still taking lessons but because they are displaying the P's I haven't honked or assumed they are drunk when they've missed the 5th chance to go on a roundabout and their general road use is appalling.

Now the flipside of this, some people see those plates and will treat them like learners i.e. do anything possible to get past them which can be dangerous. So I'd say there are pros and cons of newbies using P plates.

Will op be forcing his daughter to put those 'uncool' P's on her car?

What say you Motors?
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The first thing she did was put those "uncool" P's on her car so I didn't have to force her luckily enough.
 
Crazy money, as a young male driver my first years insurance was £800, second year dropped to £350. Must admit I was expecting a lot more, so I guess my post-code is a big saver.

Regarding 'P'-plates, a lot of countries seem to enforce them for a number of years, and I do think they are a good idea - good to hear she has the self-confidence (hopefully not the lack there-of) to volunteer to do it.
 
P plate - for those nervous wrecks who shouldn't have passed but somehow did and now want special treatment on the road. Just make the test harder rather than letting half competent drivers on our roads.
 
Jamesyboyjim said:
Congratulations to your daughter!

But this thread has got me thinking.

Should new drivers be forced to display P plates on their car?

I've seen some terrible driving from people who look as though they are still taking lessons but because they are displaying the P's I haven't honked or assumed they are drunk when they've missed the 5th chance to go on a roundabout and their general road use is appalling.

Now the flipside of this, some people see those plates and will treat them like learners i.e. do anything possible to get past them which can be dangerous. So I'd say there are pros and cons of newbies using P plates.

Will op be forcing his daughter to put those 'uncool' P's on her car?

What say you Motors?
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The very existence of "P" plates is a bit silly, and merely evidences the dangerously low standard of driving ability required in the UK.

It's like saying, oh I know you've passed your driving test but you know you cant really drive, so put these plates on. What a joke lol.

Lets be real here, society puts no time or effort into learning how to drive, it's just another chore, most people hire an instructor, just about manage to drive around for an hour a week without crashing, then pass while having absolutely no idea how to be a driver. Heck, some people manage to pass their test and they don't even know how to point the steering wheel in the direction they want the car to go! There are thousands of examples of this evidenced on video, therefore there must be exponentially more actual examples.

If people were forced to become "drivers" in order to be allowed to drive, then there would be 25% less congestion, 50% less accidents, and our reliance on "insurance" would be reduced by over 75% (but whether the insurers would pass this onto the customers is another matter).

Nothing personal against OP obviously, I do see some truly excellent driving also, and I'm sure OP's daughter is great
 
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