10 year CPU refresh time

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So it's become apparent that my CPU is now holding back my system. Hoping to keep as many parts as I can so think should just need CPU/Mobo/RAM.

Been a bit out of touch since my last build in 2014...(see spoiler to cry at old prices!):

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I've been trying to do some research to see what the go to parts are now:
CPU - Seems like 12600k is a good shout?
Motherboard - I've had good history with Asus boards so looked at current range, cant quite work out difference between Prime, TUF, Strix boards, think I should go with z790 for long term? (doesn't need WiFi although most seem to add it anyway)
RAM - Seems 6000MHz 32GB DDR5 is the way to go, this can be any generic CL30 sticks I guess

I don't have much else in the system, its fairly simple:
Case - been changed to a corsair carbide 540 so ATX is fine
Graphics card - 4070
Storage - One M.2 for OS games and 1 4TB HDD for backups
Monitor - Asus PG329Q 2560x1440 @ 165Hz

Had a history of OC'ing/tinkering so would like to be able to do that when possible. Don't need any fancy RGB/crazy aesthetics.

Edit - Usage is gaming primarily
 
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Presuming your gaming is your main use ?


You should just jump straigt to a 14600k if Intel is your preferred platform along with some ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) 6000Mhz DDR5 CL30 Memory and youf preferred motherboard.

Overclocking is pretty pointless on modern CPU's because there already pushed to there Thermalright limit , undervolting is the way to go .

Asus tuf are good value boards but there are plenty of other value options.

Alternatively AM5 will offer more upgrade choice than intel is that something you would consider?

PSU if 10 years old would change it .
 
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AM5 Best gaming cpu atm

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £744.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Just add a peerless assassin for about £35 and your done.

Peerless Assassin – Thermalright

www.thermalright.com www.thermalright.com

Also add a pcie-3 psu to drive the 4070 nativly.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £119.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
 
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mpj88 said:
CPU - Seems like 12600k is a good shout?
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At the discounted price of around £170-£180 it is a good option, but the 13400 is very similar, so I wouldn't pay a lot more than that. The 13400 and 13500 are what I'd choose for productivity or mixed usage though, not specifically for gaming.

The 13600K and 14600K are a decent step forward on the 12600K, because of changes that were made with Raptor Lake K CPUs.

mpj88 said:
cant quite work out difference between Prime, TUF, Strix boards
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It depends on which boards you're looking at, but Prime is the entry-level and has the most basic features. Outside of Z790, they also have weaker VRMs (that are usually at the bottom of HUB's charts), but I'd expect the Z790 to be fine. The TUF is the next step up and they usually have improved heatsinks and a higher quality of components, but the features depend on the model, since sometimes they're identical to the Prime. The Strix boards are aimed at gamers or enthusiasts and have the best VRMs and features, with a sprinkling of bling/RGB, but it depends how much you pay, since a board the same price as the TUF won't be much different. If you pay a lot, they can have features like: USB fast charge, PCI-E 5.0 M.2, USB4, 10Gb LAN.

mpj88 said:
I should go with z790 for long term?
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What about Z790 makes you believe it'll last longer? They usually have more M.2 slots (3 or 4 compared to 2 or 3 on B760) and PCI-E Gen 5 graphics (though B760 can have that too).

mpj88 said:
Had a history of OC'ing/tinkering so would like to be able to do that when possible.
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As said above, there's not much to be gained with overclocking modern CPUs, but you'll need a Z board to do that. Personally, I'd rather have a CPU like the 13700F and a B board, than pay a lot for a Z board with a 12600K.
 
dfour said:
AM5 Best gaming cpu atm

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £744.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Just add a peerless assassin for about £35 and your done.

Peerless Assassin – Thermalright

www.thermalright.com www.thermalright.com

Also add a pcie-3 psu to drive the 4070 nativly.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £119.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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I had heard AMD made big advancements in competition against Intel. I just know nothing of them as always used Intel in past. The 7800X3D seems a bit on the pricey side but can check out the rest of the AM5 range

I was hoping to reuse my Corsair H105 cooler

"Also add a pcie-3 psu to drive the 4070 nativly." Can you expand on this?


Tetras said:
As said above, there's not much to be gained with overclocking modern CPUs, but you'll need a Z board to do that. Personally, I'd rather have a CPU like the 13700F and a B board, than pay a lot for a Z board with a 12600K.
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Noted. Maybe should consider how much time I'm actually going to have for OC'ing these days.
 
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Tetras said:
I think it was a typo, the 3 is meant to be 5, though if you literally mean "a 4070" then they use an 8 pin so it's not needed anyway.
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Yes I meant atx v3 and I was thinking of the new 4070 super cards that dont use pcie 8 pin power .
 
mpj88 said:
I had heard AMD made big advancements in competition against Intel. I just know nothing of them as always used Intel in past. The 7800X3D seems a bit on the pricey side but can check out the rest of the AM5 range

I was hoping to reuse my Corsair H105 cooler
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Its definatly not the cheapest but for gaming its top notch.

Im sure you should be able to get AM5 or socket 1700 fittings for the H105 depending where you end up. I only added the peerless as there was no mention of a cooler in your post and the 5800x3d doesnt come with a cooler.
 
dfour said:
Yes I meant atx v3 and I was thinking of the new 4070 super cards that dont use pcie 8 pin power .
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Ah ok, well the current PSU is supplying the 4070 no problem.

As you say its 10 years old so could be considered time for a refresh!
 
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The superflower leadex psu where good quality psu so i wouldnt rush out to buy a new one just becuase its 10 years old unless you having issues or get issues with the new build.
 
Not at all. If your not using the intergrated then it doesnt use power or generate heat.

The integrated is really useful for diagnosing gpu/psu issues.
 
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Quartz said:
I believe the internal GPU has other uses too when it comes to video encoding.
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Intel quicksqnc

Intel Quick Sync Video is Intel's brand for its dedicated video encoding and decoding hardware core. Quick Sync was introduced with the Sandy Bridge CPU microarchitecture on 9 January 2011 and has been found on the die of Intel CPUs ever since.

The name "Quick Sync" refers to the use case of quickly transcoding ("converting") a video from, for example, a DVD or Blu-ray Disc to a format appropriate to, for example, a smartphone. This becomes critically-important in the professional video workplace, in which source-material may have been shot in any number of video-formats, all of which must be brought into a common format (commonly H.264) for inter-cutting.

Unlike video encoding on a CPU or a general-purpose GPU, Quick Sync is a dedicated hardware core on the processor die. This allows for much more power-efficient video processing
 
mpj88 said:
I had heard AMD made big advancements in competition against Intel. I just know nothing of them as always used Intel in past. The 7800X3D seems a bit on the pricey side but can check out the rest of the AM5 range

I was hoping to reuse my Corsair H105 cooler

"Also add a pcie-3 psu to drive the 4070 nativly." Can you expand on this?



Noted. Maybe should consider how much time I'm actually going to have for OC'ing these days.
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AMD have made massive gains over the last decade. AMD are light years ahead of Intel now.
 
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