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100 lines... I must pay attention in graphics card class.

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Weaver, Jun 4, 2014.

  1. Weaver

    Hitman

    Joined: Jul 9, 2008

    Posts: 722

    Location: It's Grimm up Norf

    I haven’t really been paying attention to the state of play with graphics cards recently so I'm not at all up to speed. My question is with regards to the AMD R9 series cards and is a two part question. Which card from the 270, 280 and 290 range would firstly be considered a decent upgrade and secondly which card would you consider offered the best bang for the buck. I'm no fan boi either... I go where my cash works best for me so Nvidia cards are also an option so feel free to put those up for consideration too.

    I'm currently using ASUS 6950 2048 MB @ stock that I run two 27” monitors from. The two monitors are necessity (for work) but I also play a few games too.


    Tia.

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  2. Sacrifice

    Gangster

    Joined: Oct 26, 2013

    Posts: 359

    Hey! I went from a Sapphire 6950 2gb to a 290. I can't remember the specific number increases, but I can remember running battlefield 3 for the first time, and running it at 120 fps to go with my monitor was amazing, so I must have been a long way off maxing battlefield 3 on the 6950. Imho, the 290 is definitely a very good cost/performance ratio proposition.

    As I have a reference for xfiring now, I'm not too sure about the performance of specific third party coolers, other than there will be no issues with overclocking to a 290x performance wise if you don't get a stinker on the silicon lottery.

    I have heard these are great, and on offer:

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-348-SP

    And this is £20 cheaper than the cost of my reference at launch(!):

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-017-VX

    I am sure that you would find either of these to be a noticeable upgrade, and including the gold never settle offer, a cracking proposition. If you wanted to go safer for what I perceive to be a reliable brand, the Sapphire would be the one I would have gone with was it available in November, and if I had had enough space on my mobo and case.
     
  3. CAT-THE-FIFTH

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 9, 2009

    Posts: 18,666

    Location: Planet Earth

    The R9 290 would be the second fast single GPU AMD card ATM,like your HD6950 was at the time.
     
  4. pandem0nium

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 5, 2010

    Posts: 2,699

    Location: Solihull

    a 6950 is about 7850 level performance, which is a r7 265 in new money.

    R9 270 series wouldn't be worth it, you would only see a slight gain.

    R9 280 and upwards you should see a benefit.
     
  5. postmanfw

    Mobster

    Joined: May 7, 2006

    Posts: 2,821

    Location: Fort William

    Cheap upgrade would be another 6950 :)
    They go in the MM for around £60/70
    Near double performance for little money...presuming rest of rig can run it :)
     
  6. IceShock

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 16, 2005

    Posts: 4,064

    Location: Halifax W'Yorkshire

    As the last post said, crossfire is a great way to cheaply double performance with old cards, I have a 7950, it does everything 100% fine, but I went from 1680x1050 res to 1080 monitor, some games dropped below 60 fps to about 50fps on ultra.. I know poor me, not as if it wasn't playable, so I spent 100 quid on another 7950 2nd hand, best thing I ever did, I have ULPS enabled in crossfire, so games where I require just one gpu active, runs cool and quiet using one gpu, or if I require 2gpus like crisis 3, battlefield 4 etc, they run always 60+ fps ultra with 4x AA absolutely fine. ofc you can disable ULPS if you want both gpus running all the time etc that's no problem, but I like to save energy and run cool and a tad quieter.

    but if you want a single card solution id go for a 290 my self.

    I was using a 4970x2 dual gpu card before my single 7950, was like upgrading from a 8 track cassette to a cd player, couldn't believe how much better it was and that was hmm, 2 and half years ago or so? so that's why I had to go for a second gpu as the games have evolved to require more from them, and the 290 im guessing is just a little less performance than 7950 crossfire. so as a single gpu card, moneys on that, could always grab a second one in few years time if somehow games evolve or become even more badly coded than they are now in the next 2 years, but for now cant see anything that wont be playable on it imo
     
  7. PESolution

    Mobster

    Joined: Oct 13, 2004

    Posts: 2,733

    Location: Teesside

    +1

    I recently went from 1 unlock 6950 2gb (shader unlocked to 6970) to two in crossfire.

    I have to say the performance jump was staggering - i honestly feel like i get a near 190% fps increase in 75% of games - never expected the scaling to be as good as it is!

    Got the upgrade for 40£ too! you obviously need the psu, mobo, and means of getting rid of the extra heat though!
     
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  8. murah

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Nov 15, 2009

    Posts: 2,475

    Location: East Sussex

    I went from a GTS 450 1GB to a GTX 670 4GB then went and got another GTX 670 4GB to keep the first one company..
     
  9. nails666

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jan 17, 2007

    Posts: 1,130

    Location: Kent, UK

    Sometimes I really wish I had MM access, I also have a 6950 (Saphire Toxic so unlocked to 6970 shaders) and if I could get a second one for £40 I'd jump at the chance but on a well known auction site they all seem to go for >£100 which I just can't really justify when I could put that money towards a 290 and then sell my 6950.
     
  10. Weaver

    Hitman

    Joined: Jul 9, 2008

    Posts: 722

    Location: It's Grimm up Norf

    As always the OCUK forum users come up with the goods. There’s certainly some food for thought in these replies.

    Thanks folks.


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  11. postmanfw

    Mobster

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    Nice price to near double performance...yes it does get a bit warm but you can alway open the window or play in shorts and t-shirt :)

    Saves heating my room in winter too :)

    Had mine now for just over 3 years and still happy with them...they were £200 each at the time but worth every penny

    Plus two cards look so much nicer in a windowed case.

    As said though you need acpu with enough grunt to run them properly plus a decent psu for the power usage.

    Had mine running with a 3570K i5 but def noticed a difference when i swapped back to my 2600K i7 cpu.

    Whats the rest of you specs Weaver?

    Important bit is the amps the psu can deliver on the 12v rail?
    (plus obv a motherboard that can do crossfire)
     
  12. Weaver

    Hitman

    Joined: Jul 9, 2008

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    Location: It's Grimm up Norf


    System spec is;

    2600k with a light clock on it @ 4.3Ghz
    H70 cooler
    ASUS P8P67 PRO
    16Gb of Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz
    The ASUS 6950
    Force 3 120 SSD
    Powered by an AX850

    I've a few other bits n bobs on it fans and fan controller etc all sitting in an 800D case.


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  13. chanjy

    Mobster

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    So Crossfire is an option then.

    I'd still go single card though, there's less faffing :p
     
  14. PESolution

    Mobster

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    Location: Teesside

    To note - I only got the second for £40 as it was a god friend upgraded who wanted a hassle free sale - they sell for 60-70 on MM and everywhere else still