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Jack Ronald

Jack Ronald

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Hey,

I am needing to get a rig together for a young guy who is quite poorly and homebound because of health and heart problems.

I was wondering if its possible to get a setup that what be playable for £1000 that can not only play games at a good quality (but not expecting super high) and also stream his games live and at other times record gameplay he can then upload to YouTube? He's such a lovely guy who has dedicated his life to charity work and others, especially in mental health. I wish I could stretch to £1500-£2000 but I can't.

The £1,000 budget would need to include everything such as the monitor, processor, gfx, ram etc but he won't need a mouse, speakers or keyboard.

It can be a DIY build if thats cheaper.

Thanks everyone!
 
DIY would be better.

Sadly you don't have MM access, as you could save a fortune going 2nd hand here. The biggest issue you currently have is GPU prices, which are ridiculous right now.

Though something like this would be fine for medium settings, add an SSD and enough left over for a monitor and M+K. Hopefully someone will be along with a better DIY option within budget.

Had a play, AMD currently (probably split opinion is better for streaming + gaming at the same time). 1070 should be more than enough. 8GB of ram is on the low side though. I also am very out of date on monitors. But it shows what can be done for £1000.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,073.53 (includes shipping: £14.70)​



Edit - acctually the 1600x doesn't come with a cooler, but the 1600 is the same price and does. Though you could add a cooler for £20 or so.Also I forgot a PSU, and now well over budget :(​
 
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £970.96 (includes shipping: £14.10)


More cores and threads the better for streaming , 1700 is 8 cores and 12 threads which is most you can get mainstream and cheap! Paired with 3000hz ram. Ryzen is greatly effected by ram speed and sweet spot for first gen is 3000/3200hz. Anything lower and really hurts performance !​
 
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Begbie said:
DIY would be better.

Sadly you don't have MM access, as you could save a fortune going 2nd hand here. The biggest issue you currently have is GPU prices, which are ridiculous right now.

Though something like this would be fine for medium settings, add an SSD and enough left over for a monitor and M+K. Hopefully someone will be along with a better DIY option within budget.

Had a play, AMD currently (probably split opinion is better for streaming + gaming at the same time). 1070 should be more than enough. 8GB of ram is on the low side though. I also am very out of date on monitors. But it shows what can be done for £1000.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,073.53 (includes shipping: £14.70)



Edit - acctually the 1600x doesn't come with a cooler, but the 1600 is the same price and does. Though you could add a cooler for £20 or so.Also I forgot a PSU, and now well over budget :(​
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I haven't got a clue what MM means! But yeah this guy is well known, he's been in the media a lot and is verified on Twitter and has hundreds of thousands of followers but I know him and he never asks anything of anyone. He even set up an amazing mental health org in 2012 which is thriving at the moment, global and he even got a letter and invitation from the queen! madness! but makes me so sad to see someone like him whos done so much for everyone, and still does, and hes the one who gets horrible health and requires a heart alert dog, which he also had to raise £10,000 for, which he did do successfully thanks to the public and some celebs. but as hes so housebound, 22/23 years old and can't work because of his health, i know he loves gaming and stuff and his girlfriend (whos also been like a carer as well for 3+ years) says hes been dreaming of a gaming rig so he can stream from home, entertain and possible even make revenue as he has like 200,000+ followers on his verified twitter account anyway so has an audience, but he just wont ask the public to help with this as hes too kind and doesnt like to waste peoples time or money, so for his birthday later this month i wanna see if i can help him. I guess i can try maybe find sponsors from tech companies and then he can feature their company in streams (i'm surprised i just thought of that!) but I'm considering spending £1k to get him something so he's not so bored at home and can socialise via gaming and streams and maybe make money from it as he already has a fan base.

But thank you for this set up recommendation! Would he be able to upgrade it to an even/far greater one should he find a way to get better parts or would it require getting a whole different build? Say he could get a better graphics card etc.

(ive been trying to seek builds on here for a while but the first ive mentioned of why I am, but the support and assistance on here has been amazing, such a great community on here.)

orbitalwalsh said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £970.96 (includes shipping: £14.10)


More cores and threads the better for streaming , 1700 is 8 cores and 12 threads which is most you can get mainstream and cheap! Paired with 3000hz ram. Ryzen is greatly effected by ram speed and sweet spot for first gen is 3000/3200hz. Anything lower and really hurts performance !​
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Thanks for this. It's good to know all of this information so a decision can be made!


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If £1200-£1400 was available would that make the performance even greater??
 
Yeah, you'd push for gtx 1070/70ti to keep frame rates as high as possible for streaming /recording. It's not about the highest god but keeping the lowest and average as high as possible .
Also 16GB of ram
PSU would need to be stepped up two, and also dual monitors is the norm for streaming
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Yeah, you'd push for gtx 1070/70ti to keep frame rates as high as possible for streaming /recording. It's not about the highest god but keeping the lowest and average as high as possible .
Also 16GB of ram
PSU would need to be stepped up two, and also dual monitors is the norm for streaming
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Thank you!

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I was also wondering, would these things work together? (dont worry they aren't what I am expecting to get as they cost a lot, but I think he had a wishlist with these on so i was wondering if these products would work together if they were in the same build):

- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors & RGB LED G/P/M, Asynch Fan, Optimized Airflow Design Graphics Card 11G-P4-6593-KR
- Intel BX80684I78700 8th Gen Core i7-8700 Processor
- GIGABYTE Intel 1151 Socket Z370 Chipset Aorus Gaming 7 D4 ATX Motherboard - Black
- Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz C15 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit - Black
- Windows 10 Home 32 bit/64 bit English International | PC | USB Flash Drive
- Seagate 3 TB BarraCuda 3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (64 MB Cache, SATA 6 GB/s, Up to 210 MB/s)


I don't know enough to know whether those things go together without problems, I also wondered with that kind of stuff, what monitor would be good with it? and also if you think that stuff is way too much for what he needs.

thanks!
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,437.15 (includes shipping: £15.30)​
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^^^^ true and I didn't bother to adjust

High Hz monitor for the gaming , standard for streaming/chat part

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,522.15 (includes shipping: £15.30)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
^^^^ true and I didn't bother to adjust

High Hz monitor for the gaming , standard for streaming/chat part

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,522.15 (includes shipping: £15.30)
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Whoops, never mind! Misread it!

Would the stuff above i listed go together?
 
Jack Ronald said:
Whoops, never mind! Misread it!

Would the stuff above i listed go together?
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Yep, should work but lack 4 extra threads ryzen 7 provides . Also since it's the non K version which is still a damn good chip, no need to go for flagship Aorus board. Their B360 version has been designed just as good.. if not better then most boards (z370 series was a rush job ) and comes with WiFi :)

Gtx 1070ti performs the same as the 1080 so basically you go with what's cheapest .

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,536.74 (includes shipping: £15.90)


So you've got 2 at £1500 with dual screens and either Intel or AMD both with max amount of threads offered and very good GPU. And £1k option with max thread count, card to handle high 60hz 1080p gaming and 1 screen

The above Intel will have the edge in gaming. All cores boost to 4.3ghz which is still faster then AMD with stronger IPC design . But when streaming loses its edge to ryzen due to the xtra cores and thread count .​
 
Begbie said:
DIY would be better.

Sadly you don't have MM access, as you could save a fortune going 2nd hand here. The biggest issue you currently have is GPU prices, which are ridiculous right now.

Though something like this would be fine for medium settings, add an SSD and enough left over for a monitor and M+K. Hopefully someone will be along with a better DIY option within budget.

Had a play, AMD currently (probably split opinion is better for streaming + gaming at the same time). 1070 should be more than enough. 8GB of ram is on the low side though. I also am very out of date on monitors. But it shows what can be done for £1000.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,073.53 (includes shipping: £14.70)



Edit - acctually the 1600x doesn't come with a cooler, but the 1600 is the same price and does. Though you could add a cooler for £20 or so.Also I forgot a PSU, and now well over budget :(​
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southernorth said:
If you're spending that much, definitely get a better monitor and case.

Would be a waste to have such a powerful PC, but only a small 60hz 1080p screen.
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orbitalwalsh said:
Yep, should work but lack 4 extra threads ryzen 7 provides . Also since it's the non K version which is still a damn good chip, no need to go for flagship Aorus board. Their B360 version has been designed just as good.. if not better then most boards (z370 series was a rush job ) and comes with WiFi :)

Gtx 1070ti performs the same as the 1080 so basically you go with what's cheapest .

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,536.74 (includes shipping: £15.90)


So you've got 2 at £1500 with dual screens and either Intel or AMD both with max amount of threads offered and very good GPU. And £1k option with max thread count, card to handle high 60hz 1080p gaming and 1 screen

The above Intel will have the edge in gaming. All cores boost to 4.3ghz which is still faster then AMD with stronger IPC design . But when streaming loses its edge to ryzen due to the xtra cores and thread count .​
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Ah ok, I'm getting it now!

Now out of curiosity, I was wondering if you're able to assist with a build but instead of to a certain value, recommending a build that will do the job to a good extent (but not as good as possible). I know that some of them are to the amount but some a fair bit under (hundred or so pounds).

So, this guy wants to stream and record his games, prob at least 1080hd (if thats how it works, lols). It would involve GTA V, Minecraft, Sims 4 (and expansions), Runescape and a few other games. Not expecting PUGB ultra high kind of settings quality.

So I was wondering what the cheapest possible build could be done that will run everything smoothly but not necessarily at very high settings. Also with two monitors still but I was wondering does the streaming monitor need to be the same as the gaming one or can it be different as it isn't needing to actually show the game? Or is it better when their the same and do things tend to run a bit smoother? But also I assume with most builds that you can upgrade and switch bits out as new things come out and when you can afford to do so?

So maybe something £1000-1200 that includes everything as well as 2x monitors. (except don't need mouse, keyboard and speakers) - apologies for sounding like a broken record, just trying to explore all options but I am doubting there is really anything that can be under 1000 that can do an ok job and includes two reasonable monitors.

But also say you had no systems and had £1200 to spend today and you had to order today, what would you buy and would an extra £300 make a significant difference to what you could get and the resulting quality?
 
To be honest with the two we've quoted at £1000 max mark is pushing it to the limit and that's with one screen . One reflecting more graphical horse power and the other cores for smoother streaming/recording

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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,162.11 (includes shipping: £15.30)​
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