10600K & 3080, worth overclocking cpu?

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I have a 10600kf that ive been using with a 3060ti or a 3070. Iven been pretty happy with performance.

I'm now using a 3080 at 1440p on a 165hz monitor. I think i might be cpu limited. For example, in warzone 2, my settings are tuned for frames per second. I get around 140 ish frames per second it doesnt seem to matter much, if at all, if i run with dlss on or off. Even if i set high performance on dlss, frames dont really increase, it just looks bad.

Cpu is running at stock. Ram is 16gb at 3200Mhz lpx vengeance.

Its been years since ive overclocked, so i have plenty of reading to do which will take time... is it worth the effort here? Will i need faster ram to make the most difference?

Case is a meshlicious, cpu is cooled by an 240mm EK AIO.

Thanks
 
I have another PC with the following specs:

5600X
16GB 3000Mhz RAM
3070
1080p

I also hit a fps "wall" in warzone 2 at around 137 fps average. This is fine, since my monitor is only 144Hz anyway. but nothing makes it any faster. DLSS has no positive effect, even changing render resolution to something stupid low, doesnt seem to make any difference to FPS.

maybe thats just the way the game is.

maybe this would be better in the COD thread
 
Run Task Manager or MSI afterburner or similar, get some graphs going under load. Play the game a little and then check to see whether it's CPU or GPU that's maxed out. This would be a good starting point.
 
Warzone likes fast ram so if you can overclock that to 3600mhz on ryzen or 4000mhz on intel then it should give you a nice boost, I would also try and overclock the 10600k core and cache ratio.

www.youtube.com

Intel i5-10600K Cache Ratio & RAM Overclock Beats 10900K: How Much Memory Matters

We overclocked the Intel i5-10600K Cache Ratio, the core, and the RAM in under an hour in order to match i9-10900K results from our review. This benchmark lo...
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Joxeon said:
Warzone likes fast ram so if you can overclock that to 3600mhz on ryzen or 4000mhz on intel then it should give you a nice boost, I would also try and overclock the 10600k core and cache ratio.

www.youtube.com

Intel i5-10600K Cache Ratio & RAM Overclock Beats 10900K: How Much Memory Matters

We overclocked the Intel i5-10600K Cache Ratio, the core, and the RAM in under an hour in order to match i9-10900K results from our review. This benchmark lo...
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I will check that out, thanks. Incidentally, the MSI ITX board in the sponsor slot of that video, is the board i have.

I assume i'd need new ram? overclocking 3200Mhz ram to 4000Mhz, is a tall order no?
 
It looks like a single CPU thread is being pegged at about 90% and the GPU slightly less. So I suppose the game is not multithreaded and is limited by CPU clock speed rather than overall ability (core count not helping here).

You could experiment with your clock or boost settings, it also does look RAM heavy as Joxeon says.
 
You will not be able to fully overcome the CPU limitations in big multiplayer online games like this. They're much more CPU intensive than 3rd person single plater games due to all the maths involved with locating other players etc. They're also usually single threaded and cannot utlise multithreaded CPUs properly. It's just the limitations of the game/game engine.

Introducing DLSS is not going to help either as this just lowers the render resolution. The lower the resolution, the more CPU bound you are. You need to increase the resolution to make it more GPU bound, especially with nVidia GPUs. AMD GPUs tend to perform better at lower resolutions. Sometimes you'll find that you'll get the same FPS at 1440p as with 1080p, but your GPU usage will be higher as you're playing at a higher res. it's different for each game/game engine.

Ray tracing can sometimes increase GPU usage, but it can also increase CPU usage, so that needs playing around with on a game by game basis.

Couple of things:

1. Is your RAM dual channel, or is it 1 single stick of 16GB?
2. Is your RAM set to run at XMP speeds?

Overclocking your CPU may help, but don't expect miracles. You're not all of a sudden going to get another 50FPS. You'll probably be lucky to get another 5%.

Everything regarding temperatures and clock speeds looks normal from your charts.
 
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Thanks

Thats what i was wondering, is it worth the effort (research and testing) if it isnt going to make a huge difference, perhaps not, it wont make me any better at COD sadly :cry:

Its 2 8 gig sticks. Ive tried overclocking the ram to see if that makes any difference. I cant get much of an increase before it crashes, so unsure if it will make much difference at all. maybe i'll keep an eye out for a used ram kit thats faster.
A CPU upgrade is likely expensive, and its really just more cores in 10th/11th Gen which wont help me.

It is what it is.

Thanks guys
 
champ222 said:
Thanks

Thats what i was wondering, is it worth the effort (research and testing) if it isnt going to make a huge difference, perhaps not, it wont make me any better at COD sadly :cry:

Its 2 8 gig sticks. Ive tried overclocking the ram to see if that makes any difference. I cant get much of an increase before it crashes, so unsure if it will make much difference at all. maybe i'll keep an eye out for a used ram kit thats faster.
A CPU upgrade is likely expensive, and its really just more cores in 10th/11th Gen which wont help me.

It is what it is.

Thanks guys
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Then it is what it is, as you say. A CPU upgrade would help, but there will still be a limitation anyway, and it almost certainly wouldn't be worth the cash for one game. You'd also need a new motherboard. If you really want to increase GPU utilisation then try increasing the graphics settings and resolution until you get to a point where you start to lose FPS, then dial it back a bit.

Your PC is fine. Stick with it.
 
Yeah i'll stick with it for now.

I could improve things a bit by putting the 3080 with the 5600X from the other PC, but that is a royal faff as i dont think i have the intel fittings for the cooler thats on that one. It probably wont be too long before i will be using one PC only. at that stage it'll be worth selling them both off and building a new system from scratch.
 
So i did some testing with the other PC. 5600X, 3070, 16GB of 3000MHz RAM.

i managed to increase the ram speed to 3333 stable enough to do some testing (i didnt change any voltages as i dont know what i'm doing without some reading) any more, then i got crashes. I went into warzone and immediately noticed a pretty decent increase in FPS. It was a solo game, with only 51 players in, so i wondered if that was skewing the results. I set it back to stock speeds and when running around on the map, i was back to 130 fps ish. Tried it at 3333 again, and say a similar increase in a fully occupied match.

i might try and pick up a 16gb kit of 3600 CL16 and see what effect that has. I can test it in the intel system too and see if that helps there.

I also deduced that the benchmark built into COD is a bit of a waste of time. The RAM speed adjustments barely made any difference to the figures displayed, the run to run variance had more impact. Yet there was a noticeable increase in game. it doesnt seem particularly indicative of warzone or multiplayer performance.

I also tried some multiplayer. I usually cap the FPS at 140Hz (144hz monitor) as i hate tearing, but i moved the cap up to 200Hz during BR testing and it was still set like that in multiplayer i was getting over 200fps. it seems the tearing is much less jarring on a 144Hz monitor than it is on a 60Hz monitor. It felt pretty good. i might keep it like this for a while.

I'll do some more testing at some point.
 
champ222 said:
I also deduced that the benchmark built into COD is a bit of a waste of time. The RAM speed adjustments barely made any difference to the figures displayed, the run to run variance had more impact. Yet there was a noticeable increase in game. it doesnt seem particularly indicative of warzone or multiplayer performance.
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Unsurprising. The benchmark will not have any of the CPU limitations of playing online such as calculating player locations etc. It's more of a GPU test, I suspect (I haven't played).
 
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