1080p on 40" my views

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Johnnytoxic

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unless you have bionic eyes I would avoid this. After seeing them in comet hooked up to bluray, I had to be a few feet away from the tv to pick up the extra detail.

1080p really needs 46" minimum if your going to be viewing from a normal distance.
 
I have 1080p screen and some 1080p material, even with my bad eyesight I can see the difference between SD and HD from my viewing position - 2 meters.
 
squiffy said:
I have 1080p screen and some 1080p material, even with my bad eyesight I can see the difference between SD and HD from my viewing position - 2 meters.
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When both scaled to that huge resolution - sure. Compare SD on a suitable display, with HD on a suitable display though, and i personally dont think the difference is big enough to really justify any real money unless you are an enthusiast.
 
I would agree - 1080p is really for projection size images and not for what would usually be called standard tv sizes ( after all 46" tv's only came out very recently)
 
FrankJH said:
I would agree - 1080p is really for projection size images and not for what would usually be called standard tv sizes ( after all 46" tv's only came out very recently)
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Ive ran a 10' screen for a number of years now, and run everything from close to dvd quality divx files through to high def DVD and HD Satellite.

To be honest, even though my equipment is HD capable, i really am not fussed about it, even at 10' display size. Its an advancement yes, but not really one to get hugely excited about. So long as the quality is good, even a DIVX file looks pretty impressive using the correct display perameters at this size. The problem comes when people buy a digital display with a high fixed resolution, and then compare the formats.
 
johnnyfive said:
unless you have bionic eyes I would avoid this. After seeing them in comet hooked up to bluray, I had to be a few feet away from the tv to pick up the extra detail.

1080p really needs 46" minimum if your going to be viewing from a normal distance.
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LOL

I go into my local TV retailers just about every week for something or other..
And am always comparing the 720p TV's against the 1080p TV's..and they always look just about the same to me..
 
Jez said:
Ive ran a 10' screen for a number of years now, and run everything from close to dvd quality divx files through to high def DVD and HD Satellite.

To be honest, even though my equipment is HD capable, i really am not fussed about it, even at 10' display size. Its an advancement yes, but not really one to get hugely excited about. So long as the quality is good, even a DIVX file looks pretty impressive using the correct display perameters at this size. The problem comes when people buy a digital display with a high fixed resolution, and then compare the formats.
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Something is amiss somewhere I suspect - and in no way am I blaming you or anything else

I am guessing you are meaning a ten foot screen, and at that size I cant imagine how divx (without scaling) is even watchable. If you have either software or hardware scaling in the system then Im not surrpised at all you have good results.

I have seen a few HD trailers in 1080p and Bluray snippets and on a quality projection screen it looks incredible, just totally different to something on a tv sized (even 40 " or so) panel. Now maybe its a case of just loving the huge picture, but I saw a few comparative DVD's in a decent player and it just was so much worse.

Im guessing you have a CRT projector? The only reason I ask is that you (rightly) mention about people comparing a fixed high res panel and compariing the difference and yes I can see where you are going - but CRT projectors cost a small fortune, even the 1080p projector I hope to get ( sony pearl @£3k or so) is expensive but cheap in comparison to CRT devices.
 
Jez said:
When both scaled to that huge resolution - sure. Compare SD on a suitable display, with HD on a suitable display though, and i personally dont think the difference is big enough to really justify any real money unless you are an enthusiast.
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thats crazy. there's a huge difference between dvd and 1080p material on my sony 40w. even the downloadable trailers are far better than dvd on any display ive used.
 
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To be honest; everyone says the same about hddvd looking no different at 23 inches, wrong wrong worng it looks pretty freakin sick on mine
 
What are the best 1080p hdtvs out there?

What size?

I want to use it as a monitor and a tv with Sky.


I've found these two. Are there any others worth considering?

37" HD Ready Aquos iDTV Digital LCD TV Sharp LC37XD1E
£1078.00

42" HD Ready Aquos iDTV Digital LCD TV Sharp LC42XD1E
 
Well I think my 40W2000 is superb. Only played HD trailers via my PC, but they're in a different league to SD stuff, incidently I think SD looks pretty good to start with.

Only thing I haven't managed yet is 1:1 pixel mapping. Used DVI-HDMI from ATI X800XT, and could get desktop to fit the screen properly. Did only try for about 10 seconds though as was more interested in watching the trailers. Anyone with any thoughts on this?
 
you need to output 1920x1080 from the card for 1:1 mapping. once you've done that its available to select in the 'screen' menu on the tv. it's called 'Full Pixel'. hope that helps:)

and yes, the 40w2000's are superb :cool:
 
thats a personal preference. the 40w's arent the best value for money but they sure are amazing screens.

i wouldnt be using one as a monitor either. 32 inchs is too big. 40 inchs is insain. i can stand sitting right up close to my 40w.
 
james.miller said:
you need to output 1920x1080 from the card for 1:1 mapping. once you've done that its available to select in the 'screen' menu on the tv. it's called 'Full Pixel'. hope that helps:)

and yes, the 40w2000's are superb :cool:
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Ah, I guess I missed the 'Full Pixel' bit. Thanks :)
 
james.miller said:
thats crazy. there's a huge difference between dvd and 1080p material on my sony 40w. even the downloadable trailers are far better than dvd on any display ive used.
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Youve missed what i said about digital displays with very high fixed resolutions. Its not the quality of the source thats really the problem in your case, its the fact that you are stretching the image so much. I agree HD is an advancement, but if you use the correct display permaters for each format i personally cant see that its worth getting hugely excited about.

FrankJH - indeed my projector is analogue which i feel is the best solution for the huge mix of formats we are having to put up with at the moment. The high end digitals are great if you wish to use them with a computer at a fixed resolution, or feed them with only one type of video, my issue is that i have literally hundreds of SDDVD's, and literally hundreds of other video files of varying resolutions which i like to watch. Using this setup i can drive the display at any resolution that i please. And by doing so everything looks very presentable.

So to re-inforce the original point, i dont believe the display size is important, i believe that running the source through a display using the correct settings for the source is what matters really. HD is great, but its not a huge advancament if everything is set up correctly for all resolutions.
 
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