1080p PC

Joshct

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Hi,

I'd like to put together a PC for my girlfriend, basic 1080p gaming at most.
I don't have a set budget in mind but don't want to go overboard on it. so around £500 for hardware, excluding peripherals / OS / Monitor.

I was looking along the lines of

Ryzen 3100 (Or ryzen 2600? Higher cores/threads but lower single core perf - thoughts?)
B450 Mobo - open to suggestions
Memory - 16GB, I know she'd get away with 8GB but I also feel like she probably wouldn't be looking to upgrade for a long time so might as well go with 16 now.
GPU - RX570? I'm not sure what's the best bang for budget at the low end. She could probably get away with onboard but I also don't want to limit her.
PSU - Suggestions?
Case - Suggestions? (Suprise so not asking her for options, I don't think she'll mind from an aesthetics point of view)
Storage - Minimum 500GB sata or m.2 (i assume sata for bang for buck) , i'll be able to add additional HDD storage later for relatively cheap/free


Any suggestions on improvements / changes / Specific parts?
I'm looking to get this purchased and build before first week of august, so currently available parts not long leed times will also be something I need to go for.

I'd also be needing a budget 1080 monitor solution, again not worried about high end here, but equally not the cheapest thing - Vesa mount required as an option

Thanks for any and all input
 
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Pretty difficult with to fit within £500 budget. Something like the below maybe, might be worth getting some parts used if possible in the MM.

PSU stock is still scarce and prices are still up. There are also some cheaper less quality branded PSUs, but I don't like skimping on PSUs.

You could cut some more corners on the below i.e. maybe scrimp £15 on a cheaper mATX case but they get nasty at that point, RAM only £10 diff with the 3200 kit so may as well get 3600 etc.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £631.85 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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This is the cheapest I can come up with although you might be able to pick up a used/second hand GPU to bring it within budget.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £562.20 (includes shipping: £12.30)​
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Might be worth checking the clearance section of overclockers, make them an offer on parts, if you grab a few, you might get a better deal. Equally, there may not be much there you want/need.

You have over 1k posts too, so perhaps check the members market? I've no idea what it's like in there unfortunately :(.
 
There's a 1660 super in the clearance too. Better card less cash. Write to them in the pre sales forum. List the clearance stuff you want and seeing as there'd be 3 bits if you include the graphics card you could probably get another 20 quid off. So that would be almost bang on 500.
 
Bit of a broken record, but there's a 3100 in clearance too, listed at retail cost, so you could definitely get a bit more money off of that.
 
without breaking the budget.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £499.59 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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it be a good all rounder machine for basic 720-1080p gaming, but you would only do better for that price if you find clearance items or go used. on the plus it be a starter machine and may or may not be enough depending whats played.
 
@ExoMale does that board ship with a Ryzen 3 compatible BIOS?

2666MHz RAM with Ryzen is sacrilege too. You can get a 8GB 3000MHz kit for £3 more.

Why the 3200G when 3100 is same price and a fair bit faster?
 
Sparx said:
@ExoMale does that board ship with a Ryzen 3 compatible BIOS?

2666MHz RAM with Ryzen is sacrilege too. You can get a 8GB 3000MHz kit for £3 more.

Why the 3200G when 3100 is same price and a fair bit faster?
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+ 1650 super is less than a tenner more, pushes it slightly over budget but would be silly not to
 
Sparx said:
@ExoMale does that board ship with a Ryzen 3 compatible BIOS?

2666MHz RAM with Ryzen is sacrilege too. You can get a 8GB 3000MHz kit for £3 more.

Why the 3200G when 3100 is same price and a fair bit faster?
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i wouldnt know if it has bios for 3000 chips out the box, i guess it would be something to ask?

2666 ram isnt all bad and while you may get faster for a few quid more the point was not to go over the budget hence why i put the 1650 and not the super.

i didnt see the 3100 listed at the time, but now ive just looked i see it ha however it doesnt have igp which while the system will have a dedicated card, the igp would be handy if issues arise from the card etc.
 
The difference between the two specs is interesting, shows how £60 can make a big difference at the low-end.

I would definitely not buy the 3200G, it's an older architecture and is 4/4, to the 3100 being 4/8. Those 4 extra threads are really needed in 2020.

Like bagel said, 1650 Super for a tenner, you'd be mad not to cos the gap is huge.
 
Tetras said:
The difference between the two specs is interesting, shows how £60 can make a big difference at the low-end.

I would definitely not buy the 3200G, it's an older architecture and is 4/4, to the 3100 being 4/8. Those 4 extra threads are really needed in 2020.

Like bagel said, 1650 Super for a tenner, you'd be mad not to cos the gap is huge.
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Don't forget the 4200G and 4400G will be out soon with 4/8 and 6/12 cores and I think these are supposed to be a single CCX like the 3300X so should be a huge jump in performance over the 3000 series APU parts.
 
Tetras said:
The difference between the two specs is interesting, shows how £60 can make a big difference at the low-end.

I would definitely not buy the 3200G, it's an older architecture and is 4/4, to the 3100 being 4/8. Those 4 extra threads are really needed in 2020.

Like bagel said, 1650 Super for a tenner, you'd be mad not to cos the gap is huge.
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wouldnt say the extra threads were needed because its 2020, the year means nothing unless you are using software of this year and we dont know what the computer is being used for, but yeah 3100 makes sense at only a quid or 2 more.

£60 can be a big difference depending how its spent. trouble is we dont know what the OP's basic 1080p gaming consists of, so the extra might not be needed.
 
Hi All,

Thank you for the suggestions, apologies for no response until now, bit of a manic weekend.
I worded it badly when i mentioned cost, I meant to say something to the tune of: I don't have a set budget, i'm thinking around £500 but can go up. Spending £600 for example wouldn't be the end of the world. I don't want to go for higher end though due to the use of the machine not warranting it, so wouldn't be looking at £800-1000

I know it makes it more annoying to spec out without a clear price range though, thank you very much again for the input.

My own personal hesitations on buying second hand (all items not just computer parts) prevent me going B Grade or MM really. Especially as a gift I want to avoid random issues cropping up where possible.


Are all B450 MAX boards ryzen 3xxx compatible?
 
90 day warrant from overclockers on 2nd hand. I believe Asus and MSI have true manufacturers warranties too, where they will accept any return even if you don't have proof of purchase (i.e. second hand), they'll just start the warranty period from date of manufacture. Other companies may be similar.

That said, buying new isn't a bad idea either :D.
 
So I need to get a move on to reach my deadline I think :D
I saw a comment about not knowing the gaming use, that's a fair point and I apologise. The problem is my gf has never gamed on a PC. It'll be indie games such as stardew valley that she could get away with an APU for / minecraft / WoW maybe. I know it won't be anything too intensive but also i'd like an indie game that comes out in 5 years to be ok.

I've considered options and would like opinions on this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £593.15 (includes shipping: £12.30)​
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The only part id have to look elsewhere for is the mobo but everything else is in stock at OcUK, problem with motherboards was i wasn't seeing the value of adding an extra £30 odd for whats in stock here.
Any changes / comments on it before I make a mistake?
 
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